In my experience ledger users should have the following skillset prior
to beginning with Ledger.

 - Moderate to high skill with text file creation, management, and
   organization as used a command line compilation and programming environments
 - Basic version control knowledge
 - Advanced command line facility
 - Some prior programming experience regarding the idea of compiling
   text files into reports, error message reporting and line numbering

I've tried to teach two bookkeepers to use Ledger and failed
miserably. They tried to use Windows tools like Notepad++ and scripts
I wrote for common reports. They couldn't grok the idea of having a
text data source and compiling reports from it. I feel your pain
having paid people for their time while I tried to teach them about
the tool I prefer.

If you already have these skills, Ledger has a gentle learning
curve. If you lack any, I would recommend commercial GUI software.

Thanks.

On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 09:23:14AM -0700, Craig Earls wrote:
> Before we continue please remember that you paid nothing for this software.
> I have used ledger for four years now and this is the first time this
> question has been asked. I don't owe you anything. I will help but if you
> continue to write as if we do owe you then I am not interested.  And I do
> associate creating blank text files with turning on the computer. It is
> about all I could do with the Apple ][ I started with when I was 11.
>
> On Tuesday, July 8, 2014, o1bigtenor <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Craig Earls <[email protected]
> > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
> >
> >> Dee,
> >>   Please don't take offense. I am happy to help. But you caught me on a
> >> particularly bad day.  I have put a huge amount of time into the
> >> documentation and the emacs code to support editing ledger files and I
> >> always looking for ways to improve it. That said, for any tool there is a
> >> minimum required level of knowledge to use the tool. I would not expect
> >> some one who cannot balance a checkbook to understand how to use ledger.
> >> And I would not feel responsible to teach that so that they could use
> >> ledger.  I don't think it is appropriate to explain how to create a plain
> >> text file in the documentation any more than I am going to explain how to
> >> turn on the computer.
> >>
> >
> > I was going to separate this into different sections but have decided not
> > to.
> >
> > That it is not necessary to indicate that one starts with a basic EMPTY
> > text file is a huge hole in the documentation.
> > There is lots of detail for after that but NOTHING on that point. Yes it
> > seems redundant now that I KNOW what is required it is quite different from
> > every other program that I have run into or used.
> > The first request in most documentation is to start the program by using
> > whatever has been designed to invoke said program.
> > Instead LedgerCLI asks you to edit a file as your first task.
> > Note there is nothing on a good place to place said file, what the file is
> > or any other information.
> >
> > Then you equate 'knowing' that a plain text file is needed with 'how to
> > turn on the computer' - - - -
> > I don't think I need to tell you what kind of a response that should get.
> >
> >>
> >> I am interested in your perspectives on using ledger and will be happy to
> >> walk you through some basics. The learning curve will be steep. I can only
> >> really help in the evenings after I have taken care of worm and family.
> >>
> >> We will see how things go.
> >
> > Thanking you for your consideration.
> >
> > Dee
> >
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