Tim,
   I will put that in the documentation.

Craig.

On Tuesday, July 8, 2014, Russell Adams <[email protected]> wrote:

> In my experience ledger users should have the following skillset prior
> to beginning with Ledger.
>
>  - Moderate to high skill with text file creation, management, and
>    organization as used a command line compilation and programming
> environments
>  - Basic version control knowledge
>  - Advanced command line facility
>  - Some prior programming experience regarding the idea of compiling
>    text files into reports, error message reporting and line numbering
>
> I've tried to teach two bookkeepers to use Ledger and failed
> miserably. They tried to use Windows tools like Notepad++ and scripts
> I wrote for common reports. They couldn't grok the idea of having a
> text data source and compiling reports from it. I feel your pain
> having paid people for their time while I tried to teach them about
> the tool I prefer.
>
> If you already have these skills, Ledger has a gentle learning
> curve. If you lack any, I would recommend commercial GUI software.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 09:23:14AM -0700, Craig Earls wrote:
> > Before we continue please remember that you paid nothing for this
> software.
> > I have used ledger for four years now and this is the first time this
> > question has been asked. I don't owe you anything. I will help but if you
> > continue to write as if we do owe you then I am not interested.  And I do
> > associate creating blank text files with turning on the computer. It is
> > about all I could do with the Apple ][ I started with when I was 11.
> >
> > On Tuesday, July 8, 2014, o1bigtenor <[email protected]
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Craig Earls <[email protected]
> <javascript:;>
> > > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected] <javascript:;>');>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Dee,
> > >>   Please don't take offense. I am happy to help. But you caught me on
> a
> > >> particularly bad day.  I have put a huge amount of time into the
> > >> documentation and the emacs code to support editing ledger files and I
> > >> always looking for ways to improve it. That said, for any tool there
> is a
> > >> minimum required level of knowledge to use the tool. I would not
> expect
> > >> some one who cannot balance a checkbook to understand how to use
> ledger.
> > >> And I would not feel responsible to teach that so that they could use
> > >> ledger.  I don't think it is appropriate to explain how to create a
> plain
> > >> text file in the documentation any more than I am going to explain
> how to
> > >> turn on the computer.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I was going to separate this into different sections but have decided
> not
> > > to.
> > >
> > > That it is not necessary to indicate that one starts with a basic EMPTY
> > > text file is a huge hole in the documentation.
> > > There is lots of detail for after that but NOTHING on that point. Yes
> it
> > > seems redundant now that I KNOW what is required it is quite different
> from
> > > every other program that I have run into or used.
> > > The first request in most documentation is to start the program by
> using
> > > whatever has been designed to invoke said program.
> > > Instead LedgerCLI asks you to edit a file as your first task.
> > > Note there is nothing on a good place to place said file, what the
> file is
> > > or any other information.
> > >
> > > Then you equate 'knowing' that a plain text file is needed with 'how to
> > > turn on the computer' - - - -
> > > I don't think I need to tell you what kind of a response that should
> get.
> > >
> > >>
> > >> I am interested in your perspectives on using ledger and will be
> happy to
> > >> walk you through some basics. The learning curve will be steep. I can
> only
> > >> really help in the evenings after I have taken care of worm and
> family.
> > >>
> > >> We will see how things go.
> > >
> > > Thanking you for your consideration.
> > >
> > > Dee
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