Metadata was added on late in ledgers history. Putting it in the comments
seemed less disruptive. May it's time to revisit that.

On Saturday, July 12, 2014, Martin Blais <bl...@furius.ca> wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Jules van Velzen <
> julesvanvel...@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','julesvanvel...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> The reason why I can not (or better: will not) use narration (or payee or
>> description) for this is, as far as I can see, because it is a single line
>> only. Besides that, the payee field can be explicitly queried by using the
>> at shortcut (@) so I consider that a field which is in my control
>> (=explicit/consent) and use it to identify edge cases. However, to give an
>> explicit example:
>>
>> 2013-12-18 ZAAK
>>   Crediteur:TMobile                        15,26 EUR
>>   Bank:AbnAmro                            -15,26 EUR
>>   ; SEPA Incasso algemeen doorlopend
>>   ; Incassant: NL93ZZZ33265679XXXX
>>   ; Naam: T-Mobile Netherlands BV
>>   ; Machtiging: 1.13567XXX
>>   ; Omschrijving: Factuurnummer 9012
>>   ; 05477XXX
>>   ; IBAN: NL12COBA0733959XXX
>>   ; Kenmerk: 501205939XXX
>>
>
> Are you able to extract all of this information from a downloadable file?
> If so, I wish my bank did this. I get almost nothing: a one-liner
> semi-cryptic "memo".
> Or are you slightly OCD and add all of this information manually for every
> bill, even a less than 20 EUR bill?
>
>
>
> The comment implies a complete description for a transaction as downloaded
>> from my bankstatements.
>>
>
> I see in the manual that Ledger calls these "comments" but they're
> attached to the transaction somehow.
> I would not call this "a comment": in most computer languages a comment is
> ignored by the parser.
> These "Ledger comments" sound more like metadata than comments.
>
>
>
>> Maybe I could put it on one line but that deteriorates its readability. I
>> have tried to use a different comment-character like # or | but that works
>> only for one line. [
>> http://www.ledger-cli.org/3.0/doc/ledger3.html#Commenting-on-your-Journal
>> ]. The reason I asked is because I might be overlooking something. Of
>> course it is fun to see that the bank or any person could help me tag my
>> transactions through the description field, though ... rather not.
>>
>
> I don't understand what this means. You seem to have a lot of info you can
> use in your import script.
>
>
>
>>
>> For now, I settle by transforming the : (ascii colon) to : (unicode ratio
>> symbol) by generating comments from statements.
>>
>
> What precisely do you mean by "settle"?
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>>
>> Thanks all for the input!
>>
>> On Saturday, July 12, 2014 12:00:57 AM UTC+2, Martin Blais wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Jules van Velzen <julesva...@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> One of the parts of completing my/a bookkeeping is to import bank
>>>> statements into ledger where each transaction has a description.
>>>> While the following problem does not happen often, the description
>>>> might have colons (:) and thus conflicts with the way tags work in
>>>> Ledger-Cli.
>>>> A minimal requirement to see if everything went ok is to visually
>>>> inspect the descriptions with the print command.
>>>> A description has the length of a sms and might imply multiple lines.
>>>> Of course it is possible to substitute the colon with something else,
>>>> however I would like the description (transaction comment) to be as
>>>> authentic as possible.
>>>> Is there a way to have real comments? In other words, a comment where
>>>> implicit meta-data like tags is not active?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Can you not use the narration for this?
>>>
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