On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:30 PM, Michael Norrish <michael.norr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> One way to do two-stage cheques would be something like
>
> 2016/1/25 * My Favourite Shop
>   Expenses:Groceries   $100
>   Liabilities:Unprocessed Checks
>
> 2016/1/31 * Check clearing
>   Liabilities:Unprocessed Checks  $100
>   Assets:Checking Account
>
> You could assuredly add metadata to link the two transactions to be wrt
> some check #.
>

Yes, and I'm claiming that this linkage can probably be done by the
computer.





>
> Michael
>
> > On 4 Feb 2016, at 15:26, John Hendy <jw.he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 10:07 PM, Martin Blais <bl...@furius.ca> wrote:
> >> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 10:48 PM, John Hendy <jw.he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 10:41:26 PM UTC-6, Martin Blais wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 1:13 PM, John Hendy <jw.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Greetings,
> >>>>>
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Huh. Yes, I'll definitely have to look into the emacs mode. I assumed
> once
> >>> it was in ledger format it would be *a lot* harder to navigate around
> vs.
> >>> just doing it while it's already in a spreadsheet format.
> >>
> >>
> >> Definitely not, text is there for your pleasure. You typically organize
> your
> >> Ledger input file in the order that makes the most sense for you (minus
> some
> >> constraints: Ledger will report the transactions in the order they
> appear in
> >> the file and the balance assertions are computed as such. Beancount
> sorts
> >> everything by date so order doesn't matter).
> >
> >
> > So, using the demo.ledger file as an example, if I run `convert` on my
> > downloaded bank file, I'm going to get something like this:
> >
> > 2010/12/01 * Checking balance
> >  Expenses:Unknown                        $1,000.00
> >  Equity:Unknown
> >
> > 2010/12/20 * Organic Co-op
> >  Expenses:Unknown             $ 37.50  ; [=2011/01/01]
> >  Equity:Unknown                   $ -225.00
> >
> > 2011/01/02 Grocery Store
> >  Expenses:Unknown             $ 65.00
> >  Equity:Unknown
> >
> > Would you just go through that and manually change all of those
> > categories in ledger-mode? I still like starting from the bank .csv,
> > as it's got transaction ids and the amounts already in there... all I
> > need to do is add categories. It appears that `convert` defaults to
> > the above. As this is the primary thing of interest to me, I was sort
> > of surprised that ledger mode offered no pop-up minibuffer to edit the
> > account, at least from perusing the manual page. I only see options
> > for reconciling, reports, changing an amount, etc.
> >
> > In any case, `convert` got most of my stuff into ledger format and
> > ledger-mode at least recognizes the blocks, so I'll likely just start
> > from there. I still have *a lot* more reading to do... for example:
> >
> > - I noticed in the demo file, the co-op (which I snipped above)
> > purchases were in one chunk vs. treated as separate transactions. I
> > wouldn't default to this and am guessing it's just a preference thing
> > (compared to having one transaction per payment)?
> >
> > - I still wrestle with deposits and withdrawals. Am I the payee? Is my
> > bank? Does it matter as long as some assets category goes positive and
> > another negative?
> >
> > - I'd love tracking checks *as we write them* vs. just waiting for
> > them to appear. This used to really annoy me in Moneydance, as I'd go
> > through the checkbook once a month to see what was written but not
> > come through. Then I'd have to have these little note entries along
> > the way to remind me what the total of uncashed checks were to-date so
> > that the sums added up. I bet there was a better way in Moneydance I'd
> > missed, and I'm positive there's one in ledger/beancount.
> >
> > Anyway, still taking it slow but feel like I'm starting to get to a
> > usable noob state.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John
> >
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