On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Brian Exelbierd <b...@pobox.com> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2017, at 05:34 PM, o1bigtenor wrote: >> Greetings >> >> I have been using ledger-cli for a number of years and it works and >> that is very good (even though most would view my grasp of the whole >> project is poor (I've learned to do what I need to do and nothing >> else)). >> >> Am in the process of starting another business and doing my >> bookkeeping is something that I would like to delegate. There are two >> things that would impede this idea. >> >> 1. Business use of personal expenses. This means that for something >> like a vehicle expense its not just charged to a account instead it >> goes to 4 accounts. >> 1. business portion to a business account >> 2. personal portion to a personal account >> 3. taxes associated with the business portion go to a business >> account >> 4. taxes associated with the personal portion go to a personal >> account >> >> What makes it more challenging is that the percentages are different >> for different things. The same rule is used for the same item at >> different times but there are a number of different items and the >> percentages are different between the items. There may even be a >> change in those percentages over time if my logging shows that the >> business use portion changes. >> >> Presently I do this using percentages that I store mentally and then I >> use a calculator to calculate the amounts for each of the value >> (corresponding to different account connected to each item). Looking >> for a way to enter item into say one account and then ledger morphs >> things into all the connected accounts in question. (I'm told this is >> part of what is called cost accounting.) > > I don't have a lot to add here as I don't need ledger to do this. It > seems like this is something where you will need to teach the rules to > your bookkeeper and have them apply them. I don't think ledger could do > this automatically. If the rules are fairly fixed and their application > is fairly predictable, you might be able to set up some Automated > transactions to trigger them based on a tag. > > I think part of your question is "How do I get the personal part into my > personal bookkeeping without giving my bookkeeper all of my personal > files?" If this is the case, I think could store your personal files > somewhere only you can get to and use an include directive to include > the relevant business files. You'll probably get a little bit of > business cruft in your reports, but you may be able to exclude it by > using a 'not' expression.
Its not the 'personal' part that I'm concerned about - -- its the math. I do a lot of the math in my head (use the calculator to calculate 1 number and then do the addition/subtraction in my head - - - have found that few people do things this way and there are a lot of places to make mistakes - - - that's the primary reason I want to automate this part. > >> Secondly - - - with saving things into a text file there doesn't seem >> to be any way of using ledger-cli say in a multi-user kind of fashion. >> I.e. one person perhaps entering invoices another checking for >> payments (or not) or perhaps even more. Not sure if this is at all >> practical and/or doable but thought I would toss the question out >> there. > > We are in the process of adopting ledger for the Fedora Project, a large > Open Source project. We wanted a way to have multiple treasurers, card > holders, and others all contributing to a single set of books. What we > have done is put our files in a git repository. We divided the > transactions into multiple files by relationship (relevant to our > spending habits) to minimize the likelihood of having simultaneous > edits. However, by using git we are able to ensure that if there is two > people edit and create a conflict, it gets flagged and someone has to > sort it out. > > I hope to publish a blog soon on how the system works (it is actually > pretty simple) and how our automated reporting works. > Interesting - -- now if I could run git completely in house (so far I've only used it as a repository for other people's software stuff) then that would be interested. I am not interested in my financial information being on the web rather I want all of that on a very controlled protected system. Thanking you for your suggestions! Dee -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ledger" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ledger-cli+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
