The first thing I would do is get a new goalie. That is done. Bring in a defensive coach. It may cost him his job if he does not. After that, stay the course. We were doing well before the goalie was hurt. It is a long season and there are lots of injuries for everybody before this is over.
> From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 15:57:58 +0000 > CC: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LU] Fw: Blackpool report > > He wasn't the reason they went down, it's because they lost their goals > scorer Billy Paynter and he was a huge loss to them.... > > > > On 4 November 2011 17:44, Richard Walker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Just remind me how Swindon did last season with the great man at the > > helm ? > > > > Funny that he's left 2 clubs for more money ? or do you think it's > > because they realise he's shit. > > > > From: David Bromley <[email protected]> > > To: Richard Walker <[email protected]>; list leedslist < > > [email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, 4 November 2011, 13:32 > > Subject: Re: [LU] Fw: Blackpool report > > > > > > I meant the Jonathan Douglas that played most matches in the season > > we reached the Championship playoffs,kept his place under Blackwell, > > Wise and Grayson, and left (like Johnson and Kilkenny) because he > > could earn more elsewhere. > > In his first season at Swindon he was voted supporters' player of the > > season and players' player of the season. But what would they know? > > He then turned down a new contract at Swindon for more money at > > Brentford who last time I looked were in league 1 not league 2 as you > > imply-you need to keep up mate. > > If we'd kept Douglas and played him at right back we would have saved > > money and had a better defence in recent seasons. > > > > I dont know why you mention Collins but his weaknesses were obvious > > when he was on loan and he should never have been made permanent. The > > same mistake is being made now with Pugh. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >From: Richard Walker > > >To: David Bromley ; list leedslist > > >Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 12:50 PM > > >Subject: Re: [LU] Fw: Blackpool report > > > > > > > > >It's a bit of a shame that even at 2-0 down and 10 men that you have > > >to > > start thinking about protecting your goal difference. What about Boro > > when we went down to 10 men and were still the better team. We just > > crumbled and it's my opinion that Grayson has lost it when it comes to > > the defence and also in his belief that Danny Pugh is doing a job for him. > > > > > >Johnny Douglas - you're having a laugh mate. He couldn't read a > > game or pass a ball. He ran around like a headless chicken not > > actually contributing at all but giving the impression he was. He came > > with premiership status , we soon realised he wasn't good enough for > > the championship (but was an ever present) and then subsequently not > > good enough for League One and now it appears that League 2 is challenging > him. > > He'll eventually end up where he belongs - non-league. > > > > > >and what about Neil Collins - he was solid and doing a job for us > > >wasn't > > he ? What a joke. > > > > > >From: David Bromley <[email protected]> > > >To: list leedslist <[email protected]> > > >Sent: Friday, 4 November 2011, 12:18 > > >Subject: [LU] Fw: Blackpool report > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> There were some favourable comments from an old pro posted > > >> yesterday > > regarding Jonathan Douglas. Whatever his other failings I agreed with > > what was written and always thought he read the game well and saw things > early. > > By contrast Kisnorbo often seems to see things late and this happened > > several times yesterday. > > >> > > >> A large number of Pugh's passes yesterday were hospital passes. > > >> > > >> I am surprised no-one has commented on the manager's tactics > > >> yesterday > > when Lees was sent off, we were 2 goals down to a team that had been > > outplaying us from the off. > > >> We weren't going to win so I wonder why Grayson didn't bring on > > >> O'Brian > > straight away to replace Lees and take off one of the forwards > > (preferably Keogh who didn't get a kick or header all night) and try > > to protect our goal difference. > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phill Shields" < > > [email protected]> > > >> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > > >> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:50 PM > > >> Subject: Re: [LU] Blackpool report > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> David, > > >>> > > >>> I usually agree with your reports but I take issue with your > > >>> comment > > about Kisnorbo looking like getting back to his best. Rachubka did > > indeed have a mare but it really would be glossing over the cracks to > > attribute this defeat soley down to him. For the 1st goal Connelly had > > lots of time and lost possession. Next thing a free unchallenged shot > > - where was the cover from the centre halves? > > >>> > > >>> The 2nd goal was a howler for the keeper and for the third I have > > >>> no > > idea what Kisnorbo was doing when Lua Lua waltzed through to have a > > shot without anyone near him. The 4th goals was Connelly's fault for > > not not getting tight in his reshuffled centre half role and Kisnorbo > > was ball watching again for their 5th. > > >>> > > >>> As you say the game was over at 2:0 and I take your point about > > >>> the > > fans response at the end. The abuse and booing that Rachubka got from > > the Kop was frankly a disgrace. Yes he had a mare and I doubt we will > > see him again but I don't expect to hear Leeds "fans" treat one of > > their own in that way. > > >>> > > >>> Last night's result falls squarely with one person, the manager. > > >>> He > > took two major gambles in close season. Resigning Kisnorbo and taking > > on this keeper. Coventry was bad but he should have been dropped after > > Posh away because he cost us both goals. Kisnorbo has gone, end of > conversation. > > >>> > > >>> Howson has become invisible since talk of extending his contract > > >>> began > > and Clayton was totally ineffective last night. Not one player would > > get above 5 for last night's performance and I was surprised we did > > not start last night with the 11 that finished the games against > > cardiff. Pugh is useless. > > >>> > > >>> We need a keeper for Sunday because after the 1st goal last night > > >>> we > > lost the plot. > > >>> > > >>> Regards > > >>> > > >>> Phill > > >>> > > >>> MOT > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:50:43 +0000 > > >>>> From: [email protected] > > >>>> To: [email protected] > > >>>> Subject: [LU] Blackpool report > > >>>> > > >>>> It can really be summed up in one word - Rachubka ! We had a > > >>>> serious > > talk on the way back with a few long time Leeds fans and we decided > > that it was indeed the worst performance by a keeper in our lifetime. > > The only ones that come close were Lukic v Arsenal (another 0 5 > > defeat) and Day v Barnsley when we lost in our promotion season > > (cannot remember exaclty what he did I just recall him being booed > > when he took goal kicks at the end)After a slow start there came 2 > > incidents which decided the game - their keeper spilled the ball and it > fell to Kisnorbo who failed to score. > > Soon after a regulation shot was parried by Rachubka and fell to Lua > > Lua who tapped it home. What little confidence Rach had in himsef or > > the fans had in him evaporated at that point.- this was illustrated > > soon after when Rach spilled a simple gather and catch , it again fell > > to a striker whose shot hit Lees - at the time I though Lees was > > unlucky, but watching it again he deliberatley > > >>>> handled it and stopped a certain goal , so straight red it was. > > >>>> Rach > > failed to save the pen but it was taken before Lees had left the pitch > > and so had to be re-taken. A chance for Rach to redeem himself - if it > > was he did not take it and the re taken kick again ended in the net. > > Game over. We were all over the place after that and Blackpools slick > > passing game tore us apart as we chased shadows for the rest of the > > half. Things got even worse for Rachubka when he spilled yet another > > shot and again it fell to the feet of the striker who tapped it home. > > Half time came and a number of fans left. We wondered whether SG would > > subject Rach to another 45 mins of hell or bring on the kid. He chose > > to give Cairns a go and we saw the last of Rachubka for the night and > > probably for ever. A decent enough keeper but whose confidence was > > shot after his schoolboy error v Coventry - playing for Leeds just too > > much for him ?Second half we really went for a bit and did > > >>>> play with some pride and gave it a real go but it was never going > > >>>> to > > happen. Then with 15 or so minutes left a goal against the run of play > > as Lua Lua lashed it past Cairns to make it 4 and a few minutes after > > they cut through our tiring defence and it was 5. Cue anoither mass exodus > of fans. > > However those who did stay then did the team and themselves proud with > > a rousing waccoe and other songs, totally drowning out the Blackpool > > fans who looked on in stunned silence. > > >>>> If only we could get behind the team that well at the start of > > >>>> the > > game.It is hard to look beyond Rachubka and his performance but on the > > down side it was another blank for McCormack and I thought Keogh had > > his worse game for us. On the up side Kisnorbo looked like he was > > getting back to something like his old self and I thought Becchio > > looked lively when he came on - he won a few headers and linked play > > well.A very bad day at the office and only time will tell whether > > there will be any long term consequences. I expect SG will get another > > keeper on loan ( a lad on the bus said he had heard Lonergan himself > > say he was 4 weeks away from a > > return) We cannot start with Cairns and I really cannot see how > > Rachubka can play for us again - a player who looked decent enough in > > pre season but who fell apart when it counted > > >>>> Dave > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> Leedslist mailing list > > >>>> Info and options: > > http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > >>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > >>>> > > >>>> PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Leedslist mailing list > > >>> Info and options: > > http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > >>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > >>> > > >>> PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Leedslist mailing list > > >Info and options: > > http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > >To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > > > > >PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leedslist mailing list > > Info and options: > > http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > > > PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4595 - Release Date: 11/04/11 > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4595 - Release Date: 11/04/11 > > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
