Jesus, no I don’t think the club made a “great” decision, I think they made the best decision they could seeing as Howson refused to sign a contract AND they got a decent offer for him. It is a decision I would have made.
And I don’t think he is our saviour, I think he is an average , if mouthy, club owner. From: Richard Walker [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 28 January 2012 09:01 To: Mark Humphries Cc: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LU] in his own words.. No Mark, it is you that is missing the point. Anyway, no point in arguing anymore, you think the club have made a great decision and I think it's tragic that we've lost our captain and best player. You think Bates is our saviour and I think he's a cunt. It's all about opinions. Sent from my iPad On 28 Jan 2012, at 06:57, "Mark Humphries" <[email protected]> wrote: Rich, you are missing the point here. There is no point getting into an argument again about whether the club pays decent wages, or shows ambition, the point is simply that those things were not the reason Howson decided to not sign a contract. It was purely and simply that he wanted to play PL next season and did not want to sign a contract NOW in case we didn’t get promoted AND to keep his options open in the summer. As far as Howson is concerned I am sure he would rather have not signed for anyone NOW, because he would have wanted to help us get promotion and ideally sign a nice new shiny PL contract with us in the summer. However the club were faced with the choice of whether to allow that to happen, and risk getting nothing, or selling him now and getting something for him. As much as you rate Howson, he is most definitely not a match winner the same as Beckford (hence the different decision made), plus he is injured at the moment. And as much as Howson would like to have had his cake and eaten it, he understands the position the club was in and as there was an offer from Norwich who are pretty much guaranteed PL football next season, he could see the sense in going NOW. From: Richard Walker [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 27 January 2012 18:59 To: Mark Humphries Cc: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LU] in his own words.. L Anyway, the point it Howson was sold because he would not sign a new contract. Not because we offered him a shit contract I would put money on that we offered him a shit contract. You don't know what contract he was offered and neither do I but I know Ken Bates and my bet is that Howson was still on League one wages, but if you don't know so why use it as an argument. Not because he perceived a lack of ambition Undoubtedly we have a lack of ambition - any fool can see that. Do you think we are an ambitious club ? Not because we forced him to go. Been told that your Manager and his staff have decided to take 2 million for you suggests that you're not much wanted. not much point in hanging around after that. How do you know that he wasn't forced to go ? If my manager told me that he had sold me to a rival firm I wouldn't really feel like sticking around. Again we don't really know do we ? Not because its all gone “bad” behind the scenes. Undoubtedly it has gone bad behind the scenes. You only have to open your eyes to see that. do you think it's a happy place at the moment ? Really, do you ? Or again do we not really know ? All 4 of those those reasons have been used as an excuse to bash Bates or Grayson, and for the final frigging time, Howson “In his own words” has told us all exactly why he signed for Norwich. All we know is that he wanted to play in the premiership (with Leeds) and surely that is the ambition of every current Leeds player so why use it against him ? Mark, you don't really know do you ? And neither do I but I can guess. BATES OUT !!! From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 27 January 2012 17:51 To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [LU] in his own words.. I disagree. If Bates had gotten us up last season, I bet Howson would have stayed _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
