I have to say I don't think schteve mcclaren would be the worst appointment
Did well with boro. Blooded kids. Won a cup. Got to a Uefa final. Then won Dutch league then hired by German champions.... Had his fair share of knocks too which is important to keep his ego in check Not too bad! Sent from my iPhone On 2 Apr 2013, at 15:11, [email protected] wrote: > I think GFH have done nothing to show that they're not part of the problem, > rather than part of the solution. They seem out of their depth in terms of > both finance and football. I have no faith in them making the best choice for > manager - they already let Adkins slip through their fingers. In fact, I'm > really worried we'll bring in some past-it/never-had-it journeyman manager. > For these reasons, I think the best case scenario is that they sell the club > very, very soon to someone with real money and real vision. One would hope > that Parkin is that guy, perhaps backed by an (even) wealthier Saudi, as is > rumored. Then Parkin could hire a young(ish), talented manager with potential > to take us back to the promised land. My ideal would be diMatteo, but I'd be > interested to see what Poyet could do. The worst case scenario is we keep > muddling through with the mysterious GFH and their collection of 10 percent > backers, who hire the first guy with a long (as opposed to successful) reco rd > of management. Talk of McLaren and Hughes terrifies me. > > Sadly, I think the worst case scenario is probably also the likeliest case > scenario. > > Cheers! > > Sean > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael ALCOCK <[email protected]> > To: Leeds List <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Apr 2, 2013 8:40 am > Subject: Re: [LU] Nail your colours to the mast > > > I agree with the listers that have concluded that McDermott or Poyet might > do a job - if I was pushed to choose only one of those I'd go for > Poyet - assuming > of course that Mourinho is too scared to manage a big club, and Glynn > Williams hasn't identified a Wenger type manager hidden away from these > shores at a Grampus Eight type club. > > I think what is absolutely certain is that whoever is appointed will need > time and support from the board, and patience from the fans. - we have > absolutely under-invested in the squad (the straw that broke the camel's > back for me and led to my decision not to renew my season ticket), and > where we have invested in the squad, we've not bought in quality. I think > the list below shows all the players Colin's bought in: > > > Paddy Kenny - 3 year deal (2015) > Jamie Ashdown - 2 year deal (2014) > Lee Peltier - 3 year deal (2015) > Adam Drury - 2 year deal (2014) > Jason Pearce - 4 year deal (2016) > Steven Warnock - 2.5 year deal (2015) > Paul Green - 2 year deal (2014) > Rudolph Austin - 3 year deal (2015) > Luke Varney - 2 year deal (2014) > David Norris - 3 year deal (2015) > Michael Tonge - 2.5 year deal (2015) > El Hadji Diouf - 2 year deal (2014) > Ryan Hall - 2.5 year deal (2015) > Steve Morison - 3.5 year deal (2016) > > > None of whom, I would argue, are really good enough for a team serious > enough to challenge for promotion next year. In terms of quality we've only > really got Byram, Lees, and McCormack. But what hope do we have of shifting > all the dead wood out in the summer? Not much. Poyet seemed to get the best > out of a limited squad when he was with us under Wise. > > > Unless GFH find some cash, the only way forward for us is to produce more > youth players. It's unfair to judge Dawson after one game, but he seems to > have potential - but do we have enough quality in the reserve and youth > teams to step up next season? If our only option is to rely on youth then > whoever comes in as manager needs a long term strategy vision to make this > happen, certainly a few seasons and my big fear is that GFH and the fans > just won't have the patience to wait this through. > > > > > On 2 April 2013 12:39, Graham Longbottom <[email protected]> wrote: > >> There are many managers I dislike personally (albeit purely on the basis >> of the meeja as I don't know any of them personally), but I reckon I could >> learn to love any manager who brought us success again, so that aspect >> never bothers me.I want someone who has either proven they can create a run >> of success (NOT take over a successful team at the top of their game), or >> shown they can motivate whatever set of players they have in front of them >> - preferably both. >> >> So notwithstanding the fact that the general assessment of Nigel Adkins >> was "twat" - on the basis of what he did in a short managerial career - >> including that incredible run of success at Saints, I would have snapped >> his arm off, and told Warnock where to go. I think missing out on him is a >> real lost opportunity. He had a great run of success, starting from a team >> largely inherited and underperforming, and turned them into winners. Yes he >> had money given, but by and large I think he spent wisely on underrated >> players, who added to the team. Most Southampton fans I know were mortified >> when he was sacked, although they seem to be getting over it now they're >> safe-ish. >> On the same basis therefore, my choice would be to try and get Poyet. Not >> proven yet, but shows promise, has done well with Brighton (although >> clearly could do better) and is relatively young. Has been at and knows us >> as a club, and was in my opinion the difference in the the fantastic 15 >> point season. I always hated Wise (personally again), but put up with it >> due to results. When it became clear (after he left) that Poyet was the >> magic behind that sequence and the wheels subsequently came off, I was able >> happily to go back to hating Wise, and would welcome Gus back.He's also not >> managed in prem, and therefore is realistically likely to take the job if >> suitable incentivised. Unlike Rafa, Mourhino etc. We are NOT going to >> attract them, so their performance is irrelevant. >> McDermott worked miracles with Reading - given the quality of the team he >> started with, but I don't think he's shown how to get the best out of them >> lately, so I'm not wildly impressed. >> O'Neill, I can't make my mind up on. He's sort of a "big beast" so may >> have some sort of motivating effect on the team (if he's still up for it >> after the Mackems), but it may be that Robertson was the magic behind that >> partnership too, so undecided. Having said that, anyone who helps take >> Sunderland down is alright in my book. (To quote Da Rev - "Is Bob Stokoe >> Dead yet?").If he was up to it, I'd have him on the books as an advisor on >> a game by game basis for the rest of the season, with a view to a potential >> post next season, while we wait to see who becomes available. Lambert may >> well become available, and while if he does, that will be a failure at >> Villa, his performance at Norwich was again miraculous and sustained over a >> couple of seasons and promotions - especially considering that he again did >> that in his first season with largely Brian Gunn's team who, he hammered in >> the first game of that season, so I would say a proven motivator of >> players. Can't put my finger on wha >> t's going wrong for him at Villa though. >> No-one else impresses me at the moment. I would take Grayson back, as I >> suspect a large part of the issues he had were related to back-room stuff >> going on due to Bates/Sale/Takeover. I think he was unlucky, and has >> unfinished business with us. No idea whether he's COME back though given >> how he was treated. >> G >> >> (I don't believe in the "Star Tyro" syndrome, so Di Canio never excited >> me, and the last thing we need at Elland Road is more volatility. >> Management by hand grenade is most likely to blow our own legs off. Same >> for any "great" players, wanting to jump in at the top level with no >> experience of managing at the dirty end. Could never understand why anyone >> - even the barcodes - thought Shearer could manage their team, given he had >> no track record whatsoever.) >> >> >>> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 12:10:00 +0100 >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [LU] Nail your colours to the mast >>> >>> OzPete wrote: >>> >>>> VINNIE JONES >>> Me and my mate were talking about that yesterday - if you had Vinnie as a >>> motivator alongside a seasoned coach (Eddy?) - we reckon they could do >>> it!!!! >>> >>> Ted H >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leedslist mailing list >>> Info and options: >> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >>> >>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: >> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >> >> MARCHING ON TOGETHER > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > MARCHING ON TOGETHER > > > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > MARCHING ON TOGETHER _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] MARCHING ON TOGETHER
