That's actually quite well put.

I would classify myself as camp 2. 

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> On 3 Feb 2014, at 23:29, "David W" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I don't necessarily attach much blame to anyone for the Sport Capital deal
> failing - these things happen, and the new information that caused Sport
> Capital to reduce their bid (whether the realisation of the ongoing monthly
> losses (it would surprise me if they hadn't already known this) or some
> other nasty little contingent liability, is one of those things. They were
> within their rights to try and adjust their bid to reflect the change, GFH
> were within their rights to say the deal doesn't work at the revised
> figure. Unfortunate but life.
> 
> However, the goings on during Friday and the perfect storm of lunacy that
> came together with GFH apparently (for reasons that may come to light after
> this storm has settled) desperate to conclude a deal as a matter of urgency
> and Cellino desperate to get in control, and coming to a head on transfer
> deadline day, makes Cellino and GFH look inept and opportunistic.
> 
> GFH basically abandoned ship and left a quite extraordinary management
> vacuum on one of the club's most important days in years. All of that mob
> have to take accountability for that.
> 
> Cellino was guilty of crass corporate management (trying to shoe horn his
> man in and getting McD out before he'd even bought the club) that does
> little to reassure anyone that he has learnt the errors of his ways given
> his past convictions.
> 
> I don't buy the argument that Cellino can be a good thing, just because he
> will be a new broom, take no shit bloke with lots of cash. If Bates had got
> 200m behind him, would that have made everything about his reign ok? No,
> because he would sitll have been a graceless, thuggish oaf that dragged our
> club's name through the mud, acted solely for himself and sowed division at
> every turn as a way of maintaining control. We don't need that again.
> 
> We're all wearied by the last decade or so at Leeds. I suppose it comes
> down to whether your attitude is now:
> 
> Camp 1 - I'm just sick of us being rubbish and second tier. I want quality,
> I want drive and I want promotion. Just give me that and I'm happy. It's
> not nice guys that matter, it's success.
> 
> Camp 2 - I'm just sick of the off-field division, shennanigans, succession
> of people taking from our club, but giving little. I just crave stability,
> normality and unity. To ensure our football club is Leeds UNITED, at
> whatever level that is, without feeling our soul is being eroded with each
> passing year.
> 
> I'm a Camp 2 fan. But I'm not saying Camp 1 is wrong, and I fully
> understand it.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> David
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:07 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> My guess is that its to do with due diligence. GFH have made a loss the
>> haigh group couldn't get the backing as sums didn't add up.
>> 
>> If you were buying a house and you found a problem that meant your
>> mortgage company wouldn't lend you the full amount you couldn't proceed
>> unless they dropped the price or you risked your own funds.
>> 
>> I don't necessarily blame Haigh as such in all this.
>> 
>> Others will know more but that's my take from press/twitter etc...
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dr Michael Benjamin <[email protected]>
>> Sender: [email protected]
>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 16:58:06
>> To: Nigel Barber<[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>> Cc: LEEDSLIST<[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Cellino Biog from Beeb site - sounds lovely!
>> 
>> I fear that we are being dragged in some cases willingly into something we
>> barely understand.
>> Cellino maybe lots of things. But he's rich. Puts his money where his mouth
>> is. Above all he is not that useless twat Haigh.
>> Before anything else. Why was Barnes purchase blocked?
>> We are so cheerfully jumping on 'get Cellino' but no one answers some very
>> basic questions. Has Fornan the cash to make a go of it. Why was he
>> piddling around? Why are he and Haigh suddenly buddies?
>> Too much spin. Too much black and white. Too many questions. Too much black
>> and white.
>> I've learned to respect my guts. And my guts tell me that we are being
>> manipulated.
>> 
>> Dr Michael Benjamin,
>> Community Psychiatrist
>> -------------------------------
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>> 
>>> On 3 February 2014 16:19, Nigel Barber <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is this a beauty contest?
>>> 
>>> The article also said that the Cagliari fans held a vigil for him when he
>>> was in stir. That speaks volumes to me.
>>> 
>>> So many closed minds.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3 February 2014 13:22, [email protected]
>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, he sounds chuffing dreadful and he looks like Serge
>> Gainsbrough....
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 03 February 2014 at 12:46 John Lee <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26006243
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