I know 'last man' is not part of the rules that is why I said something about
'new fangled' as it is often used by the 'experts' to justify a non sending
off.Referee has his view of it i suppose but i still think most refs would view
it as a goal scoring opportunity. If Sam had not been fouled he would have had
an empty net to turn it into albeit, I agree watching it back on TV that it
would have been an acute angle;I felt hard done by at the time as did all the
fans around us, but only the ref counts Dave
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Subject: Re: [LU] Bolton
To answer the question about why Lonegran didn't get a red card. Byram knocked
the ball quite wide as he went past him, so if he hadn't been fouled he would
have had a narrow angle to shoot from once he'd caught up with the ball. There
was also a defender racing back who could have blocked a shot on the line.
So the referee was entitled to rule that it wasn't a clear goalscoring
opportunity. The words 'last man' don't appear anywhere in FIFA's guideline on
this rule, the referee has to assess each situation and there is no hard and
fast rule that a 'last man' has to be sent off.
Otherwise, I think your report is excellent.
Tim W.
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Sent: Saturday, 10 January 2015, 21:52
Subject: [LU] Bolton
I forgot just how much I miss going to away games! Even though I was drinking
in Manchester , in pubs I have been in before. Train from Oxford Road to
Horwich Parkway was full of Leeds and was a good atmosphere, a few songs and
that sense of anticipation that only away games have. Like most the team
selection had us thinking , and we decided that we had probably come for a
draw, something that may well have been the case, but after a few minutes the
win was on. In our first attack Byram was through on the keeper and was almost
bound to score when the keeper brought him down. From our seats (stood up)
towards the back of the top tier it was a 100% penalty,and a red card surely ?
I am not quite sure what the ref thought happened but he pointed to the spot
but did not get his cards out. Did he really think it was an accidental foul ?
Nothing else would be correct, if it was a foul then a penalty was correct, but
given that Byram was clear on goal and the keeper was this new fangled 'last
man' thing then how could it not be a red ? Anyway in the event Rudy stepped up
and hammered it home with aplomb. So 1 up after 5 minutes. The rest of the half
was pretty much rubbish, two poor teams playing badly in poor conditions. We
had one good chance when a great cross into the box found Morison unmarked but
he decided to fall on his knees and headed into the keepers arms - he should
have done miles better. At the other end we defended with a mixture of skill,
luck and detetmination, which coupled with their poor play meant that we went
into half time still one up. Could I have picked a great game to come 'out of
retirement' for and see an away win. No chance, 5 minutes into the second half
and we hit the self destruct button yet again. A cross into the box, Silvestre
decided to punch rather than catch it and the ball ended up on the edge of our
box, next thing the ref had blown and from nothing, they got a penalty. Not
sure who had done what, I have since heard it was Murphy who gave it away, but
whatever the case it was a penalty from a non threatening situation (bit the
same as the Warnock one v Ipswich?) and bang went the lead. The rest of the
half was 2 rubbish teams trying not to lose. We had slightly the better of
things but never really looked like getting the second goal we needed. On a few
occasions we did things right until the final ball or shot which went badly
astray. Our lack of belief showed itself to me when on 90 mins we had a free
kick on the edge of their box. Normally the crowd would have been up for it,
thinking that this was it this was our chance to win. Instead there was a bit
of half hearted chanting and a bit of false optimism. Those thinking 'nothing
to see here' were proved correct as it all fizzled out. We did have a couple of
decent chances in the second half, Byram putting it into the side netting the
best of them.So how did this new team and formation go ? Well the one point was
the least we deserved. A point would have been Ok pre kick off but getting a
goal in the first minute , meant that really we should have won.We set
ourselves out for the one point and we did keep their chances to a minimum and
did have a few half chances at the other end. Bolton were awful and if this is
their normal standard they will go down - this is for certain.As for us,
Morison is not the answer - he had a few good flick ons but never really linked
up with anyone and most came to nothing, We could have played another 90
minutes and he still would not have looked like having a proper shot !Taylor -
I forgot he was playing - did Ok and was never a liability but offered nothing
going forward either. Does not deserve dropping but did not do enough to
warrant keeping his place eitherBerardi - same as Taylor - should not be
dropped per se but only keep him if it suits usAustin - typical Rudy, did bits
which makes me think 'don't send him to Millwall' then next minute 'I will pay
his train fare myself' - he does have something to offer but cannot be relied
onMurphy - played well for the most part , tried to do things, tried the
'killer ball' and did well, on the other hand he gave it away too often and his
killer ball was not in the right place (weather was not condusive to long
passingByram - like many I have thought he would be better in midfield than at
right back and it is worth another go. He provided cover for Beradi and did
create things going forward BUT he is not really a right winger either and his
crossing and final ball was poor at times.Overall this was 2 points thrown away
against awful opposition but I would go with this team (maybe Sharp for
Morison) and formation for the next away game - set up for one point with a
chance of all threeOverall , despite the poor game I loved the day out and
can't wait to travel away again (Wigan here I come)The drink and drugs have
blurred both my judgement and my memory so treat all the above with some
scepticism Dave
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