I never said he is average, what he is not is beyond any type of criticism or 
meaningful discussion of mistakes he may make.
Nick
    On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 10:55:27 AM EDT, Nick 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
 that 60 yarder for Bamford to spoon just wide on Saturday was Hoddlesque 
(without the god bothering)

> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Richard Naef <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Kalvin Phillips' averageness in stats.
> Date: 14 August 2019 at 15:39:30 BST
> To: Nicholas Armit <[email protected]>, Richard Walker 
> <[email protected]>, "leeds list ([email protected])" 
> <[email protected]>
> 
> If you don't try difficult things and occasionally fail (16%) then what's the 
> point. Perhaps some of the 16% did cause problems but that's what the other 
> 10 players are for and Bielsa isn't going to criticise him for that.
> 
> I think Dave made the point that comparing Batty to Macca was pointless as 
> there attempts at passing were of completely different types.  KP is a 
> defensive midfielder, very little gets through BUT he also sets up counter 
> attacks and plays defence splitting passes.  If you think he's average your 
> are entitled to your opinion, but I just think that's  plain wrong and not 
> born out by the facts of last season or the beginning of this, maybe you need 
> to amend your expectations of a top championship DM? Who are you comparing 
> him with?
> 
> Sent from my Mobile.
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Nicholas Armit <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 3:07:22 PM
> To: Richard Walker <[email protected]>; leeds list 
> ([email protected]) <[email protected]>; Richard Naef 
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Kalvin Phillips' averageness in stats.
> 
> I recommend you watch again Richard and actually look for the passes he gave 
> away. They were problematic.
> 
> Phillips has come on leaps and bounds but he does have issues.
> 
> Nick
> 
> On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 09:56:57 AM EDT, Richard Naef 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> LOL.  15 long passes, 84 Medium and Short.
> 
> Sent from my Mobile.
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Nicholas Armit <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 2:47:35 PM
> To: Richard Walker <[email protected]>; leeds list 
> ([email protected]) <[email protected]>; Richard Naef 
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Kalvin Phillips' averageness in stats.
> 
> Most of the game Phillips sat in midfield with noone anywhere near him. 
> During the game I told the boy I could sit there and do that too and give the 
> ball away less (some hyperbole there of course). With Rich a bit here, stats 
> do not tell everything. 100 short passes looks great and is not necessarily a 
> bad thing but when 4/5 through balls go straight to the other side and sets 
> up their attack there is nothing wrong with pointing that out.
> 
> Nick
> 
> On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 05:48:08 AM EDT, Richard Naef 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> I’m definitely a snowflake and I hug trees and don’t wash regularly, but when 
> deciding on things I prefer facts to opinions, which of course you are 
> entitled to have and express on an open forum.  Of course you don’t like 
> facts and stats that contradict your opinions, who does, but just ignoring 
> them and accusing others of getting upset is a bit rich (pun intended).  If 
> you think 16% is “frequent” in the context of a fast flowing match against 
> committed (albeit limited) opponents, can you give us an example of the stats 
> you would expect from an ABOVE average player, one that would reduce the pain 
> you say you feel from watching one of our most improved and committed 
> players?  C’mon Rich, we all know your schtick on here & Twitter is to be 
> angry and contrarian to wind people up, but you’re amongst friends here, just 
> once, just for us, crack and smile and gives us a WHOOP – promise we won’t 
> tell anyone.
> 
> From: Richard Walker <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Sent: 14 August 2019 10:37
> To: leeds list ([email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>) 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Richard Naef 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Kalvin Phillips' averageness in stats.
> 
> stats are stats and looking at those they mean nothing. For instance they 
> don't include his shot that went over the stand in the first half.
> 
> I'd prefer to go with what I saw and overall I thought Philips did ok with a 
> definite improvement in the second half with one or two really good passes.
> 
> First half though, he was dreadful. His passing was all over the place, 
> frequently giving the ball away (that must have been the 16% inaccurate 
> passes). The most worrying thing is when he got done for pace by Towell and 
> you could see he just didn't have the acceleration to recover.
> 
> I like Philips, he's a local lad and he's doing ok at this moment in time but 
> let's have a reality check. Some fans are saying he could be England captain 
> whereas I think he's a good championship player and would struggle in the PL.
> 
> It makes me laugh when fans get all upset when you point out a player's 
> faults in a match and get all abusive and start crying particular on Twitter 
> however there are 1 or 2 snowflakes on here. Come on, grow up FFS.
> 
> On Wednesday, 14 August 2019, 09:01:10 BST, Richard Naef 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Kalvin Phillips vs. Salford City:
> 
> 128 touches (most) 🌟
> 99 successful passes (most) 🌟
> 84% pass accuracy
> 15 successful long passes
> 5 ball recoveries
> 2 chances created
> 2 accurate crosses
> 2 shots on-target
> 
> Defensive midfielder.
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