Her and me both Ed. 

Best regards,Scott. 

> On 20 May 2020, at 10:56, Ed Morrish <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Also, Anand is British Asian, so the context of visiting ER when the NF were 
> active is more significant to him than perhaps it might be to people on 
> here... 
> 
> (My wife is also British Asian, and the first time I took her to ER she was 
> *terrified*, as her experiences of football crowds had been... not positive.)
> 
> Ed.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 20 May 2020, at 09:13, Richard Naef <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> It's strange how we can see the same thing so differently, maybe it's in 
>> through the lens of our view of the BBC? They mentioned Dirty Leeds, but 
>> discussed the context of it being of its time and how by the 70s we were 
>> playing beautiful football and discussed the NF at Elland Road, which my 
>> understanding was a real issue (I wasn't there) ? But also that it was 
>> confronted which was also true and a matter of pride to those that did it. 
>> Yes, It wasn't a football show, so didn't go into detail about the goals, 
>> but was led by real Leeds fans, mentioned that we were the best team, won 
>> lots but almost won even more, and that the grasping defeat from the Jaws of 
>> victory is our thing.  Above all, for me, the first 5 minutes described 
>> quite well to a R4 audience what Billy and Leeds meant to people of a 
>> certain generation, maybe actually turned Matthew Parris into a leeds fan 
>> LOL!
>> 
>> Sent from my Mobile.
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Robert Heath <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 4:26:53 AM
>> To: Richard Naef <[email protected]>
>> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>; Leeds List 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [LU] King Billy - Geat Lives
>> 
>> Yeah I was surprised that the Scotland "disgrace" incident didn't come up, 
>> but apart from that it was the usual litany of Dirty Leeds and racist/NF 
>> Leeds, and when they did focus on Billy it was the Sunderland defeat, the 
>> Wembley sending off, the Dave Mackay clash. No mention of his incredible 
>> record of scoring winning goals in semifinals (6 times, I believe) or indeed 
>> anything about what made him such a special player apart from tenacity and 
>> determination.
>> 
>> I did like the stuff about Albert though, and I'd never heard that quote 
>> before about how Billy sorted out those who abused Albert.
>> 
>> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 12:21 AM Richard Naef 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
>> wrote:
>> Really Rob?,  just listened to it and was imo fair, objective and honest, 
>> the inclusion of Rob Bagchi gave it real authenticity. It put the dirty 
>> leeds moniker into context. Also, importantly, mentioned Albert Johannensen 
>> and Billy's protection of him, was honest about the NF leeds fans in the 80s 
>> and what Billy did about it. What bits did you think were biased, I'm 
>> intrigued? The only thing that surprised me was no mention of how his 
>> Scotland career ended in disgrace.
>> 
>> Anyone else listen to it, what is your opinion?
>> 
>> Sent from my Mobile.
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Leedslist 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on 
>> behalf of Robert Heath 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 8:57:38 PM
>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Cc: Leeds List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Subject: Re: [LU] King Billy - Geat Lives
>> 
>> Predictably managed to focus on every negative thing the BBC could drag up
>> about Billy and the club. Absolutely typical BBC coverage of Leeds United.
>> 
>> To counter all that, let me share with you a brilliant quote from Billy
>> after he had retired which I only recently came across: " During my time at
>> Leeds some supporters had grown from being children into young men. I felt
>> partly responsible for teaching them positives; self-discipline, respect,
>> never to give up on anything, to keep fighting for what you want and
>> believe in."
>> 
>> It was only when I read that that I realised how true it was that Billy
>> Bremner was a huge influence on my life, because I was one of those
>> children.
>> 
>>> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 4:45 PM Guy Thornton 
>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Today on BBC Radio 4, 16.30 BST:
>>> 
>>> Great Lives - Billy Bremner
>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000j80t
>>> 
>>> Available on BBC Sounds (aka Radio iPlayer) after broadcast or download
>>> podcast
>>> 
>>> guy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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