It’ll be Orta/Radz’s biggest challenge - finding a new manager. Regardless of results this season, there was no way I expected Bielsa to be here next season, unless we won the league and he fancied a pop at Europe?
Almost as important is can we keep Philips and Raphinha for a couple of years? Anyway, let’s end on a positive - Newcastle ;-) > On 18 Oct 2021, at 07:06, Alec McQueen <[email protected]> wrote: > > If Bielsa resigns we are down. There is nobody else who could make our > current squad perform to the level we have done in the past 2-3 years. We > will be OK (just) if we stay calm and let MB get on with it. I think we have > been unlucky on fixtures, injuries and absences, and when that levels up (pls > God!), then we will get a good run going and pull away from the bottom. But I > don't expect anything better than 15th at the end of the season, and MB may > leave at that point anyway. > Cheers > A > >> On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 at 15:06, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote: >> I dont think Bielsa will be our manager next year, sadly. >> >> If he doesnt turn our results around before Christmas he will resign. >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Leedslist <[email protected]> on behalf of John Lee via >> Leedslist <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, 18 October 2021 1:08 AM >> To: Robert Heath <[email protected]> >> Cc: leeds list <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [LU] Coach 22 >> >> Someone asked the question about getting rid of Bielsa, and it is, sadly, a >> fair one? Accepting the unbelievable progress of the last 3 years, >> performances which I’ll never ever forget, Bielsa’s methods have been >> neutered by many teams, and unless we score a hat-full then our defensive >> structure means we are completely naive at times! Simply repeating the same >> mistake time and again, with lesser quality players than our first xi, seems >> idiotic. >> >> We can now see why Bielsa stays only a short time at teams - he gets sussed >> out, and then finds another group to ‘indoctrinate’. When it works it’s >> brilliant! >> >> At what point though does the club start to ask him questions, and will he >> simply walk? >> >> There are 7 teams with 7 points or less - I think we can muddle our way to >> safety, but I’m short of belief that this is going anywhere near the 9th >> place of last season, although I’d settle for 17th. Unless our prospects >> improve I think it’s unfeasible we’ll be hanging on to the likes of Rapha, >> Phillips etc for more than this season? What are the odds of Newcastle >> coming in for them in January? >> >> I still hope I see us with Shack in midfield and Drameh at right back, and >> soon! And Roberts nowhere near the first xi :-( >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> > On 17 Oct 2021, at 16:20, Robert Heath <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > What worries me is that the players seem to be lacking >> > confidence..........and one thing you need if you are going to play >> > Bielsaball (and all the high-risk play that entails) is supreme confidence. >> > It is one of the many facets of Bielsa's genius that he managed to instill >> > such self-belief in players who, let's be honest, did not previously seem >> > to possess the talent to deserve to be confident. No doubt getting our top >> > players back will help, but Bielsa's biggest challenge now, I think, is to >> > somehow rebuild that lost confidence. >> > >> > My other worry is that opposing managers have worked out how our passing >> > patterns develop and have trained their players where to position >> > themselves to prevent us building moves. >> > >> > On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 4:11 PM nattan--- via Leedslist < >> > [email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> I agree from what I have read and what little I have seen, yesterday was >> >> clearly very poor, and I accept we have problems. However can you imagine >> >> the moaning from other managers if they had to start a game with both >> >> fullbacks, the midfield lynchpin, the top goal scorer, and the best / >> >> most >> >> creative player all absent? That is 5 out of 10 outfield players missing, >> >> exactly half of them >> >> No team could hope to cope easily with that level of absence.( Koch a >> >> current German international also injured) >> >> Yes our problems are exacerbated by the small squad which led to a very >> >> young and inexperienced bench ( the absent for 2 years Forshaw not >> >> withstanding) >> >> Things are also made worse by Dallas being out of sorts ( missed an NI >> >> game earlier due to personal reasons) >> >> As one of my T shirts says "LUFC KEEP THE FAITH" >> >> Anyone asking for Bielsa to be replaced need to get a grip >> >> Get our players back, get a few good results and it will all look much >> >> better >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sunday, 17 October 2021, 15:56:07 BST, Michael Benjamin < >> >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> This team is Bielsa. >> >> If it fails we simply go down. No one can get more out of them. >> >> We'd sell and start all over again. >> >> This year not only have players gone backward but no one has progressed >> >> from the under 23s who are not on the fringes before. >> >> I am at a loss as to why or what is happening, plenty of guesses, but why >> >> guess. We will wait and see. >> >> This is Bielsa's show >> >> >> >> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Leedslist <[email protected]> on behalf of Ed Morrish < >> >> [email protected]> >> >> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2021 5:49:32 PM >> >> To: list leedslist <[email protected]> >> >> Subject: [LU] Coach 22 >> >> >> >> Watching the highlights of a pretty abject performance yesterday, a >> >> problem occurred to me: Bielsa has gotten players like Kalvin and Bamford >> >> playing in a way that no other coach has ever managed. And when the team >> >> succeeds it’s because he’s got them playing in a way that none of our >> >> previous coaches ever have. So for all the problems we’ve got - a small >> >> squad, no plan B, a reluctance to change underperforming players - I >> >> wonder >> >> if a different coach would be able to change anything, given the players >> >> we’ve got? I mean, Bielsa’s the coach who turned Luke Ayling into someone >> >> people talk about being called up for England. Is there anyone else who >> >> can >> >> do that, or would they need to spent £30m on a new right back? >> >> >> >> In other words, if Bielsa is the best manager for this group of players, >> >> don’t we kind of have to just stick with him, at least until we have 11 >> >> Raphinhas available for selection…? >> >> >> >> Ed. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Leedslist mailing list >> >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> >> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >> >> >> >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >> >> >> Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Leedslist mailing list >> >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> >> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >> >> >> >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >> >> >> Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! 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