OK your point is taken that it was not a penalty as Bamford had fouled first, I accept that...... HOWEVER, the red card should have remained as whether the ball was in play or not that was a studs up kick out attack and would be classed as violent conduct and should still be a sending off. Am I right or what? Or are the players now allowed to chin each other to no consequence because the ball is in touch and not in play?
> On 17 Oct 2022, at 09:13, Richard Walker via Leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org> > wrote: > > I missed the game despite spending hours on the phone and entering into the > ballot so watched on TV. > I feel a lot better this morning than I did after the Palace game. We were > excellent second half and Arsenal looked out on their feet at times. Was this > a consequence of playing last Thursday ? Maybe, but who cares ? > First of all the controversial ending - unfortunately it was a blatant push > by Bamford so no chance of a penalty. Yes their guy lashed out a bit with his > feet and you could argue that was a red but Bamford had already committed the > first foul. > I thought first half we competed well but were 2nd best and Arsenal had the > best chances whilst we only made their keeper work once from a scrappy > corner. Our tactics weren't really working with Harrison playing as a striker > and Rodrigo as a no 10 where he was pretty ineffective. > Marsch said that it was an agree swap at half time of Rod for Bamford (you > don't often hear about planned subs like that). It did work though and for > all the abuse Bamford got on Sunday night Twitter I thought he was excellent > and really made the difference. Arsenal couldn't cope with him and as a > result Aaronson and Siri started to get more space and time. It was one way > traffic for most of the half and the only surprise was that we didn't win it > 3 or 4-1, we were that much better. Finishing however it becoming a problem > and you can see that Bamford is getting twitchy. On another day though, his > disallowed effort which looked like a dodgy decision in slow motion is given > and he sticks the pen away, we win and he's a hero - of course that didn't > happen his haters will say. > I think that performance made me realise what Marsch is trying to do and it > could work although I've still got that nagging feeling that the only reason > we overran them was because they were knackered. > My scores: > Meslier - 7 Didn't do a lot wrong. Some blamed him for the goal, I think > that's a bit harsh > Rasmus - 8 Definitely looked a lot better last two games. He is never going > to offer as much as Ayling going forward though > Struijk - 7. Struggled first half but then realised he need to get to Saka > earlier and after that Saka never had a kick. He also got forward well which > he has done in the last 2 games. > Cooper - 7. Solid. No complaints. > Koch - 8. Extra solid > Adams - 7. I sometimes feel he's fighting a one man battle in there as I > don't think Roca helps him too much. Gets through a lot of work. > Roca - 5. Poor first half in which he was a passenger but to his credit he > like everyone improved 2nd half and put in some good work and good balls. For > me though he's disappointed. > Harrison - 5. Out of position. > Rodrigo - 4. Ridiculous pass for the goal > Sinistera - 8. Lively throughout even in the first half. Probably needs to > get a bit fitter > Aaronson - 8. I thought that was his best game for a while especially 2nd > half where he ran them ragged down the left wing. > Subs: > Bamford - 8. Missed pen but was the difference for me > Koch - busy > Jimmy - missed a great chance > > Thankfully I've got a ticket for Fulham so looking forward to Sunday. > > > > > > On Monday, 17 October 2022 at 08:42:01 BST, Nick <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk> > wrote: > > So ref doesn’t see a clear handball, game goes on for nearly a minute until > someone gets his attention - VAR & a penalty, which we miss. > Then in injury time there’s a tussle as Bamford goes through, there’s some > afters and their 6 kicks his studs up and into Bamford - doesn’t look like a > penalty but he gives it and sends their guy off, for the violent conduct I > assume, because the tussle wasn’t a sending off. There’s 5 minutes while they > go nuts. VAR again - penalty and red card overturned. > What is the point? > > Add to this the 35 minute break in the first minute, when we lost power and > the referees can’t communicate via their little walkie-talkies…but you know > it was a clear sunny afternoon, we had a ball, the ref had his whistle and > the linesman had their flags… don’t know how managed for the 130 years before > all this technology. > > All that said, we were better than Arsenal and deserved at least 1 point, if > not 3. We keep Jesus and Martinelli quiet. Struijk had a battle with Saka, > which he won over the 90 minutes, but of course Saka ‘won’ ‘cos he got the > goal, from one of those utterly unpredictable mad moments, when Rodrigo > attempting to switch play to the other wing, badly misjudged his pass, > sending it 40 yards back towards our goal, out to the wing, where Saka > pounced and 5 seconds later it was in the net. > > Bringing Bamford on at half time changed it for us. The movement and > stretching of their defence gave our midfield targets to hit with passes - > suddenly Aaronson was everywhere, Sinisterra was in the game - he is quality > -, Somerville should have hit the target with 5 minutes left. > > But as is par for the course, the visitors time wasted and “managed the game” > (what a fucking horrible phrase that is) and we couldn’t hit the net. I hate > Arteta and all his bleating and shenanigans on the touchline. > > Frustrated but hopeful. > > Nick > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!