Agree Simon.
On Monday, 17 October 2022 at 11:31:11 BST, Simon McNally
<[email protected]> wrote:
I’ve watched it back a few times and I think they both make a meal of it.
Yellow for me.
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Subject: Re: [LU] Arsenal OK your point is taken that it was not a penalty as
Bamford had fouled first, I accept that...... HOWEVER, the red card should have
remained as whether the ball was in play or not that was a studs up kick out
attack and would be classed as violent conduct and should still be a sending
off. Am I right or what? Or are the players now allowed to chin each other to
no consequence because the ball is in touch and not in play?
> On 17 Oct 2022, at 09:13, Richard Walker via Leedslist <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> I missed the game despite spending hours on the phone and entering into the
> ballot so watched on TV.
> I feel a lot better this morning than I did after the Palace game. We were
> excellent second half and Arsenal looked out on their feet at times. Was this
> a consequence of playing last Thursday ? Maybe, but who cares ?
> First of all the controversial ending - unfortunately it was a blatant push
> by Bamford so no chance of a penalty. Yes their guy lashed out a bit with his
> feet and you could argue that was a red but Bamford had already committed the
> first foul.
> I thought first half we competed well but were 2nd best and Arsenal had the
> best chances whilst we only made their keeper work once from a scrappy
> corner. Our tactics weren't really working with Harrison playing as a striker
> and Rodrigo as a no 10 where he was pretty ineffective.
> Marsch said that it was an agree swap at half time of Rod for Bamford (you
> don't often hear about planned subs like that). It did work though and for
> all the abuse Bamford got on Sunday night Twitter I thought he was excellent
> and really made the difference. Arsenal couldn't cope with him and as a
> result Aaronson and Siri started to get more space and time. It was one way
> traffic for most of the half and the only surprise was that we didn't win it
> 3 or 4-1, we were that much better. Finishing however it becoming a problem
> and you can see that Bamford is getting twitchy. On another day though, his
> disallowed effort which looked like a dodgy decision in slow motion is given
> and he sticks the pen away, we win and he's a hero - of course that didn't
> happen his haters will say.
> I think that performance made me realise what Marsch is trying to do and it
> could work although I've still got that nagging feeling that the only reason
> we overran them was because they were knackered.
> My scores:
> Meslier - 7 Didn't do a lot wrong. Some blamed him for the goal, I think
> that's a bit harsh
> Rasmus - 8 Definitely looked a lot better last two games. He is never going
> to offer as much as Ayling going forward though
> Struijk - 7. Struggled first half but then realised he need to get to Saka
> earlier and after that Saka never had a kick. He also got forward well which
> he has done in the last 2 games.
> Cooper - 7. Solid. No complaints.
> Koch - 8. Extra solid
> Adams - 7. I sometimes feel he's fighting a one man battle in there as I
> don't think Roca helps him too much. Gets through a lot of work.
> Roca - 5. Poor first half in which he was a passenger but to his credit he
> like everyone improved 2nd half and put in some good work and good balls. For
> me though he's disappointed.
> Harrison - 5. Out of position.
> Rodrigo - 4. Ridiculous pass for the goal
> Sinistera - 8. Lively throughout even in the first half. Probably needs to
> get a bit fitter
> Aaronson - 8. I thought that was his best game for a while especially 2nd
> half where he ran them ragged down the left wing.
> Subs:
> Bamford - 8. Missed pen but was the difference for me
> Koch - busy
> Jimmy - missed a great chance
>
> Thankfully I've got a ticket for Fulham so looking forward to Sunday.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, 17 October 2022 at 08:42:01 BST, Nick <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
> So ref doesn’t see a clear handball, game goes on for nearly a minute until
> someone gets his attention - VAR & a penalty, which we miss.
> Then in injury time there’s a tussle as Bamford goes through, there’s some
> afters and their 6 kicks his studs up and into Bamford - doesn’t look like a
> penalty but he gives it and sends their guy off, for the violent conduct I
> assume, because the tussle wasn’t a sending off. There’s 5 minutes while they
> go nuts. VAR again - penalty and red card overturned.
> What is the point?
>
> Add to this the 35 minute break in the first minute, when we lost power and
> the referees can’t communicate via their little walkie-talkies…but you know
> it was a clear sunny afternoon, we had a ball, the ref had his whistle and
> the linesman had their flags… don’t know how managed for the 130 years before
> all this technology.
>
> All that said, we were better than Arsenal and deserved at least 1 point, if
> not 3. We keep Jesus and Martinelli quiet. Struijk had a battle with Saka,
> which he won over the 90 minutes, but of course Saka ‘won’ ‘cos he got the
> goal, from one of those utterly unpredictable mad moments, when Rodrigo
> attempting to switch play to the other wing, badly misjudged his pass,
> sending it 40 yards back towards our goal, out to the wing, where Saka
> pounced and 5 seconds later it was in the net.
>
> Bringing Bamford on at half time changed it for us. The movement and
> stretching of their defence gave our midfield targets to hit with passes -
> suddenly Aaronson was everywhere, Sinisterra was in the game - he is quality
> -, Somerville should have hit the target with 5 minutes left.
>
> But as is par for the course, the visitors time wasted and “managed the game”
> (what a fucking horrible phrase that is) and we couldn’t hit the net. I hate
> Arteta and all his bleating and shenanigans on the touchline.
>
> Frustrated but hopeful.
>
> Nick
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