I wish the ref could book Rodrigo for the suicidal back passes! He did it time 
and again in the Bielsa-era - 100mph back passes and first time wallops along 
the back - pretty idiotic.

As for the non-penalty, did Bamford get booked for his pathetic over-reaction? 
I thought a yellow for the flimsy leg up was about right too.

At least we saw glimpses of something very good yesterday - points desperately 
needed this week though. Bamford changes how we play for the better, but that 
penalty? It happens, but at least get it on target!

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> On 17 Oct 2022, at 11:46, Richard Walker via Leedslist <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Agree Simon.
>    On Monday, 17 October 2022 at 11:31:11 BST, Simon McNally 
> <[email protected]> wrote:  
> 
> I’ve watched it back a few times and I think they both make a meal of it. 
> Yellow for me.
> Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Leedslist <[email protected]> on behalf 
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> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2022 11:29:19 AM
> To: Richard Walker <[email protected]>
> Cc: Leeds List 2010 <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Arsenal OK your point is taken that it was not a penalty  
> as Bamford had fouled first, I accept that...... HOWEVER, the red card should 
> have remained as whether the ball was in play or not that was a studs up kick 
> out attack and would be classed as violent conduct and should still be a 
> sending off. Am I right or what? Or are the players now allowed to chin each 
> other to no consequence because the ball is in touch and not in play?
> 
>> On 17 Oct 2022, at 09:13, Richard Walker via Leedslist 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>  I missed the game despite spending hours on the phone and entering into 
>> the ballot so watched on TV.
>> I feel a lot better this morning than I did after the Palace game. We were 
>> excellent second half and Arsenal looked out on their feet at times. Was 
>> this a consequence of playing last Thursday ? Maybe, but who cares ?
>> First of all the controversial ending - unfortunately it was a blatant push 
>> by Bamford so no chance of a penalty. Yes their guy lashed out a bit with 
>> his feet and you could argue that was a red but Bamford had already 
>> committed the first foul.
>> I thought first half we competed well but were 2nd best and Arsenal had the 
>> best chances whilst we only made their keeper work once from a scrappy 
>> corner. Our tactics weren't really working with Harrison playing as a 
>> striker and Rodrigo as a no 10 where he was pretty ineffective. 
>> Marsch said that it was an agree swap at half time of Rod for Bamford (you 
>> don't often hear about planned subs like that). It did work though and for 
>> all the abuse Bamford got on Sunday night Twitter I thought he was excellent 
>> and really made the difference. Arsenal couldn't cope with him and as a 
>> result Aaronson and Siri started to get more space and time. It was one way 
>> traffic for most of the half and the only surprise was that we didn't win it 
>> 3 or 4-1, we were that much better. Finishing however it becoming a problem 
>> and you can see that Bamford is getting twitchy. On another day though, his 
>> disallowed effort which looked like a dodgy decision in slow motion is given 
>> and he sticks the pen away, we win and he's a hero - of course that didn't 
>> happen his haters will say. 
>> I think that performance made me realise what Marsch is trying to do and it 
>> could work although I've still got that nagging feeling that the only reason 
>> we overran them was because they were knackered.
>> My scores: 
>> Meslier - 7 Didn't do a lot wrong. Some blamed him for the goal, I think 
>> that's a bit harsh
>> Rasmus - 8 Definitely looked a lot better last two games. He is never going 
>> to offer as much as Ayling going forward though
>> Struijk - 7. Struggled first half but then realised he need to get to Saka 
>> earlier and after that Saka never had a kick. He also got forward well which 
>> he has done in the last 2 games.
>> Cooper - 7. Solid. No complaints. 
>> Koch - 8. Extra solid 
>> Adams - 7. I sometimes feel he's fighting a one man battle in there as I 
>> don't think Roca helps him too much. Gets through a lot of work.
>> Roca - 5. Poor first half in which he was a passenger but to his credit he 
>> like everyone improved 2nd half and put in some good work and good balls. 
>> For me though he's disappointed.
>> Harrison - 5. Out of position. 
>> Rodrigo - 4. Ridiculous pass for the goal 
>> Sinistera - 8. Lively throughout even in the first half. Probably needs to 
>> get a bit fitter
>> Aaronson - 8. I thought that was his best game for a while especially 2nd 
>> half where he ran them ragged down the left wing.
>> Subs:
>> Bamford - 8. Missed pen but was the difference for me 
>> Koch - busy 
>> Jimmy - missed a great chance 
>> 
>> Thankfully I've got a ticket for Fulham so looking forward to Sunday. 
>> 
>>   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>     On Monday, 17 October 2022 at 08:42:01 BST, Nick 
>> <[email protected]> wrote: 
>> 
>> So ref doesn’t see a clear handball, game goes on for nearly a minute until 
>> someone gets his attention - VAR & a penalty, which we miss.
>> Then in injury time there’s a tussle as Bamford goes through, there’s some 
>> afters and their 6 kicks his studs up and into Bamford - doesn’t look like a 
>> penalty but he gives it and sends their guy off, for the violent conduct I 
>> assume, because the tussle wasn’t a sending off. There’s 5 minutes while 
>> they go nuts. VAR again - penalty and red card overturned.
>> What is the point?
>> 
>> Add to this the 35 minute break in the first minute, when we lost power and 
>> the referees can’t communicate via their little walkie-talkies…but you know 
>> it was a clear sunny afternoon, we had a ball, the ref had his whistle and 
>> the linesman had their flags… don’t know how managed for the 130 years 
>> before all this technology.
>> 
>> All that said, we were better than Arsenal and deserved at least 1 point, if 
>> not 3. We keep Jesus and Martinelli quiet. Struijk had a battle with Saka, 
>> which he won over the 90 minutes, but of course Saka ‘won’ ‘cos he got the 
>> goal, from one of those utterly unpredictable mad moments, when Rodrigo 
>> attempting to switch play to the other wing, badly misjudged his pass, 
>> sending it 40 yards back towards our goal, out to the wing, where Saka 
>> pounced and 5 seconds later it was in the net.
>> 
>> Bringing Bamford on at half time changed it for us. The movement and 
>> stretching of their defence gave our midfield targets to hit with passes - 
>> suddenly Aaronson was everywhere, Sinisterra was in the game - he is quality 
>> -, Somerville should have hit the target with 5 minutes left.
>> 
>> But as is par for the course, the visitors time wasted and “managed the 
>> game” (what a fucking horrible phrase that is) and we couldn’t hit the net. 
>> I hate Arteta and all his bleating and shenanigans on the touchline.
>> 
>> Frustrated but hopeful.
>> 
>> Nick
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