HERE HERE! For the big games, do not people not realise that they are by definition against teams with better midfields and CBs, so chances will be at a premium, nevermind goals!?!?
¡QUE VIVA BECKFORD! > -----Mensaje original----- > De: [email protected] [mailto:leedslist- > [email protected]] En nombre de Richard Walker > Enviado el: martes, 22 de diciembre de 2009 19:24 > Para: [email protected]; Tim Leslie; list leedslist > Asunto: Re: [LU] Soton. > > Personally I think most Leeds fans are as thick as fuck. The Kop sing "Luciano > Becchio, Luciano Becchio ... " yet the bloke can't play the simplest of > passes and > continues to miss chance after chance whislt maintaining his 1 in 4 goal ratio > under Grayson. I actually sat in the Kop for the Huddersfield game and was sat > next to a Luciano Becchio chanter, so I asked him if he really rated him. > Reply was > 'Nah, but he's a trier'. Great ! We all like a trier don't we. For my money > Beckford > has worked as hard as anyone in most of the games I've seen this season > and you > just can't argue with his goalscoring record. Does he not produce in the big > games > ? Maybe sometimes but what's the biggest game of the season for us to date ? > I'd say against Norwich 'cos they're our biggest and best rivals in > my opinion. We > all know what happened there ? Also, what happened last season when we didn't > have Beckford in the team ? We struggled like fuck ? Becchio > suddenly had no space and we all realised what a shite, limited player he is > ? > > So the fuckwits can continue to sing for Becchio, whilst I will continue to > support > Beckford, our only striker with true pace. You can't replace that at this > level. > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: Tim Leslie <[email protected]>; list leedslist > <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, 22 December, 2009 9:22:08 > Subject: Re: [LU] Soton. > > Tim, I've been doing reasoned arguments on here for years and its got me > nowhere. So I thought, for once why bother...the end result would be the same. > > If Beckford scores at OT the Beckford-haters will all just queue up to say > "he's > only doing it cos he's in the shop window", and if he doesn't score then it'll > be all the usual "never shows in big games"...makes you wonder why he'd bother > at all really doesn't it? So no I won't take your bet. But I still reckon that > if we keep him (and currently the only reason he'd go is cos half the numpties > "supporting" the team he plays for, think that a goal ratio of 2 in 3 is not > good enough...does not prove that he works hard enough "for the team") then he > will score more league goals this season than all of his forward line > colleagues > added together. > > Just a point about reasoned argument Tim, you can't say "we can't use the > stats, > the history" to judge a footballer. On that basis I propose our forward line > for > OT is Caspar and Hughesie because judging everything on what might happen and > not taking any history into account, its about their turn to bag a few. > Beckford's in a lean spell - the team hasn't been firing all around - missing > Kisnorbo, Naylor, Higgs and Johnson - the midfield, not quite sure whether to > play Kilkenny, Howson, Doyle - that doesn't make him a bad striker (at this > level) > > Not every footballer has to charge around like a headless chicken to be > effective (Tony Currie, Gary Lineker, Mark Viduka, christ even the blessed > Lord > Lucas of Radebe looked somewhat less than switched on sometimes). Sure every > team needs workers, but not every player in the team has to be that kind of > player. That doesn't mean that I don't think Beckford earns his goals, I think > that forwards earn goals in different ways - Beckford makes the runs he thinks > are worth making - not always for his own benefit, see the late header > recently > when he went up against the keeper to set up Gradel. It's just not > appreciated. > > If it is "so easy" playing up front in the current Leeds Utd team that anyone > could get the goals why don't they? Why is it only Beckford who does? I'll > give > you a list - Vokes, Kandol, Showunmi, Grella, Trundell, Becchio - why can't > any > of them match his strike rate? > > That header from 6 yards that Becchio missed on Saturday...Jesus if that had > been Beckford half the crowd would have been after him. But because Lucciano > runs himself into the ground he's somehow thought "easier to forgive". > > None of the above means Beckford is perfect, far from it, but I want to see > Leeds Utd out of the third division and moving up and it strikes me that we > have > a much better chance of achieving that with a guy who is a proven goalscorer > (and who puts the shit up the other team's defenders). We've only got one of > those and its Jermaine. If he played for anyone else in this league we'd be > coveting him something rotten. > > As far as speculation goes - I think he could probably do OK in the > Championship > and I hope that he does that with us next year. I don't think he has the > temperament or touch to make it in the Premiership. > > > On 21 December 2009 at 17:28 Tim Leslie <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Nothing like reading a reasoned argument ... then ignoring it and harping > > on about a statistic eh Nick? > > Let's take a good look at his record this season. > _______________________________________________ > the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators > accept no > liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. > Leedslist mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > Volame vsechny Cechy > > > > > _______________________________________________ > the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators > accept no > liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. > Leedslist mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > Volame vsechny Cechy Confidencialidad Este correo electrónico y, en su caso, cualquier fichero anexo al mismo, contiene información de carácter confidencial exclusivamente dirigida a su destinatario o destinatarios y propiedad de Vodafone España. 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