Curtis and others, The ER 20 collet that one can buy to fit he extension are usually e:g 13 to 12, 12 to 11 ,7 to 6 and so on Richard
On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 6:03:06 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote: > > Curtis > The extension is for routers is from Axminster Tools a company here in the > u.k. that sells the xtension that uses ER20 Collets > > https://www.axminster.co.uk/ > > They work quite well > Cheers > Richard > > On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 3:15:38 PM UTC+1, Curtis wrote: >> >> https://www.accusizetools.com/content/20.pdf >> >> >> https://www.accusizetools.com/0223-0954-er-20-r8-x-4-10-ps-set-er-collet-system/ >> >> >> Dose this collet fit your router??? if so Pretty neat extension concept, >> >> C.A.G. >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"CURTIS GEORGE" <curtg...@wowway.com> >> *To: *legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com >> *Sent: *Sunday, June 18, 2017 10:06:38 AM >> *Subject: *Re: Routers >> >> Hello Richard >> do you have a picture of this ER 20 system. >> I for one have used collet systems on steel mills, but they were part of >> the machine, how do you fit that with a router? or do you just use the >> collet from a mill and then use a motor to drive it??? >> >> They say a picture is worth 1000 words, in this case, please post a lot >> of pictures. >> I need help understanding what you are doing. ;-) >> >> C.A.G. >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Richard Ellis" <rchrd....@gmail.com> >> *To: *"Legacy Ornamental Mills" <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >> *Sent: *Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:41:19 AM >> *Subject: *Re: Routers >> >> Tom >> I am sorry that I did not answer your question about the ER 20 system . >> They are mainly used in the metal work trade. However They can be used for >> wood work. >> I use them with milling cutters, and the drawback with them is that they >> are parallel shank to cutter. >> This of course means that a change of cutter size means that one has to >> also change the collet >> I have never used a normal router cutter larger than 3/4" and 1/2" shank >> in the ER20 >> The milling cutters from the far east are so cheap and I just use them >> for planing cuts or grooving. >> I know nothing Re: Diamond saws but am learning something new every time >> I go back to messages on this site, that are years old. >> Yesterday using my Revo I used a 1/2" milling cutter to plane a spindle >> 30 inches long by 1 1/4"Dia >> Turned both handles at the same speed ----- it looked like the rats had >> been at it----------- must get a motor drive to the spindle, like I have on >> the Old Woodchuck, that leaves a perfect finish on spindles using the same >> 1/2" milling cutter. >> *Further more I do not need the exercise by the turning of handles >> !!!!!????* >> Regards >> Richard >> >> On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 4:07:09 PM UTC+1, Tom Dotta wrote: >>> >>> Hi Richard & Curtis >>> >>> Two things I'd like to hear more about. ER20 system and diamond hole >>> saws for use on a router?? >>> >>> Cheers Tom D >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 7:43 AM, CURTIS GEORGE <curtg...@wowway.com >>> <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello and Good morning Everyone. >>>> I have the Xtreme Xtension chuck on my router, I do like it, But having >>>> said that have been looking at the muscle chuck for a while and DO plan to >>>> buy one. >>>> Here is there web site. http://www.musclechuck.com/ I have switched >>>> form my PC to a Craftsman router for my Legacy, I was told that the Bosh >>>> (#4) chuck would work for me, so I plan to buy one soon. >>>> I agree with Richard using the old router col let type of chucks are a >>>> Pain! >>>> >>>> As far as Router bits go. Magnate is a very good company, but I use >>>> what ever I can get my hands on, metal working end mills (both carbide and >>>> H,S,S.) are also part of my arsenal of tools that I use with my Legacy. >>>> (NOTE) Two flute end mills work the best on wood, ones made to cut Alum. >>>> are what I look for the most. The end mills that have more flutes tend to >>>> bog up with wood chips, so stay clear of those for the main stay, But end >>>> mills are cheaper to buy and higher quality for the most part. but the >>>> section of profiles is limited compared with router bits. >>>> but for the small/detail jobs, I use what ever I can find, HSS (cheep) >>>> bits can do well for small jobs, so keep your eyes open, you just may find >>>> something that works for you even if its not made to work with a router... >>>> >>>> One more example are my diamond hole saws, They work very well for >>>> detail work, they are much safer to use then an Fly cutter would be on a >>>> router. but again (I must stress ) they are ONLY for detail work, >>>> >>>> Gota run now. >>>> Have a good weekend everyone. >>>> C.A.G. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: *"Bawdsey64" <rhp...@gmail.com <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED>> >>>> *To: *"Bill Bulkeley" <bulk...@mmnet.com.au <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED>>, >>>> "Mike Pung" <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com >>>> <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED>> >>>> *Sent: *Saturday, June 10, 2017 10:02:13 AM >>>> *Subject: *RE: Routers >>>> >>>> >>>> A word of warning DO NOT PUT AN XTREME XTENSION IN A MUSCLE CHUCK, >>>> that can be lethal and they are not meant to be used together. >>>> >>>> >>>> Of the two products I prefer the Xtreme Xtension but that is because >>>> Bob at Router Technologies built it originally for me after the guy at >>>> Muscle Chuck or what ever his company was called at that time would only >>>> build his product for Porter Cable! Bob even sent him his design for the >>>> Xtreme Xtension but he did not want to know so Bob went ahead and built it. >>>> >>>> >>>> If you are in the UK or Europe then both products are available from >>>> www.woodworkersworkshop.co.uk and by the way I am not involved with >>>> that company in any way these days. >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Roger >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from TouchMail for Windows 10 <http://bit.ly/1PH8eIw> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Bill Bulkeley >>>> *Received:* 10/06/2017 14:52:10 +01:00 >>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED> >>>> >>>> I use nothing but triton routers on my mills, router table and free >>>> hand I love them. >>>> >>>> They are all fitted either with the quick change musclechuck or the >>>> xtream xtension depending on the reach I need. >>>> >>>> Rather than change chucks on one router I change the whole router for >>>> another, I have several fitted with different quick change chucks. >>>> >>>> The triton routers are the only routers here that have fast removal and >>>> replace mounting from machine to machine, one of the reasons i like them >>>> so >>>> much. >>>> >>>> loosen 2 wing nut like screws slide a little and it’s off done. I can >>>> change routers in about 10 seconds. >>>> >>>> When I have it on the legacy I have one or both of the routers plastic >>>> shields removed so I can get easily to the router bit and also the legacy >>>> T >>>> ball hex key fits all the quick change chucks so changing bits is easy and >>>> all the cutting takes place lower down so the shields don’t do much anyway >>>> in this case. >>>> >>>> When I started I bought this set first >>>> https://www.magnate.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=RBPROFESSIONAL >>>> >>>> Then kept adding and adding bits mostly from magnate others from ebay >>>> or were ever i saw bits i think i could use now i have that many it’s >>>> ridiculous I was a bit a holic for a while J >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Bill >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED> >>>> [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >>>> <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED>] *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, 10 June 2017 4:40 PM >>>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills >>>> *Subject:* Routers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Wondering what sort of routers do most of you use. And did you buy sets >>>> of cutters or buy them individually ??? >>>> >>>> I have a Triton TRA 001 on my Woodchuck and a Dewalt 625 E on my Revo. >>>> >>>> Bill I always find it a pain to change cutters on the Triton-------- >>>> need three hands, although it is easy to do in a vertical position in the >>>> router table. >>>> >>>> On the Legacy's I usually have something under the cutter to save it >>>> from falling on the floor. Sometimes I wedge the lock button in with a >>>> length of wood. >>>> >>>> Be nice if the button stayed put. The routers both have the ER 20 >>>> collet system They allow me to use milling cutters. >>>> >>>> Regards to all ,and lets have more posts, surely someone has a question >>>> or two >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>> <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED>. >>>> To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com >>>> <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED>. >>>> Visit this group at >>>> https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >>>> >>>> Virus-free. www.avg.com >>>> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>> <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED>. >>>> To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com >>>> <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED>. >>>> Visit this group at >>>> https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>> <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED>. >>>> To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com >>>> <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED>. >>>> Visit this group at >>>> https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>> <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED>. >>>> To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com >>>> <http://JAVASCRIPT-BLOCKED>. >>>> Visit this group at >>>> https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at >> https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at >> https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. 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