I actually had quite a bit of experience on Giddings and Lewis machining
center back in the late 80's and early 90's, that was on a five axis metal
working machine. When I started seeing the CNC stuff on the legacy I wanted
one, but about the time they were modifying the manual LOM's I was in the
middle of my big 3.5 year house rebuilding project.

Once the house was done I sat back for a few years and built up my wood
shop, picking up some pretty nice equipment and built Murphy beds and lot's
of end and night tables. I always thought about that CNC stuff, and got
close to considering the Legacy Maverick CNC 4x8. $26k was a nit much, but
I thought about all the things I could do with it . . . And then several
trips to the Philippines kind of took on a life of its own. šŸ˜

Now that Teresita is here and I have a supportive wife, ( Uh, the trips to
the Philippines had a benefit of epic proportions.) I am now thinking about
all those fun things again, even finally putting together my New (old)
model 1200 LOM.
I have been doing some "stuff" on the 1200, but to be honest, my ultra
technical experience on the Giddings & Lewis spoiled me. I was able to edit
g code, manually entering lines into the programs directly on the machine
console. Back then the computer generated code was "sent" from an old DOS
6.1 operating system program called Genesis over network lines to the
machine console. From there I would pick it up and modify if and when
needed, which it very often did. I could even manually produce simple
programs for surfacing and making straight cuts of many types. This machine
also had a 16 place tool holder, and of course, who wouldn't like to have
that on a Legacy?

I noted the comment on the router shifting a bit on the LOM when changing
directions. I thought maybe I didn't assemble things quite right because I
see that also. In addition, I see some play in the outer rails when making
certain movements on the x and y axis cuts. I also have noted some drifting
on the z axis, I have the upgrade, and I now am beginning to think that
maybe the old plunge router sled might be more efficient for what I have
been doing thus far on the 1200.

JOE: you have the CNC package still in boxes? What would that go for it you
sold it to someone who might think about using it?

I have been thinking about modifying two LOM's to make a wide setup to
flatten boards and to do cut outs on plywood sheets. Just rambling thoughts
at this point. I have seen mills near here for a pretty los price that
might make it feasible. Maybe.

So, to CNC or not to CNC, that is A question.

I too have a computer IT background. I spent 25 years in IT, first with
building and implementing units and specializing in Windows operating
systems, then software, then Network systems. And then 20 years of
Government Public Safety System implementation and administration.

During all that time, when I saw the CNC era come into play at Legacy, my
heart was there. I visited John at Legacy in Utah four times during
business trips, even spending an hour with Tracy as he was working on a
project with the Maverick.

Hmmm.

I still think about it . . As I enjoy my retirement.


On Mon, Dec 9, 2019, 4:05 PM Tracy Smith <trlsmit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> One of the things I definitely ran into was the slippage (don't remember
> the official term) when the CNC would change direction.  It is more
> accurate than what I did manually but I noticed that in some cases where
> the work was very detailed, I had to edit the Gcode and modify how the
> program worked so the cutting was always from the same direction.
>
> For example, when the CNC changed direction, the router in the Zaxis
> shifted very slightly.  I couldn't adjust it enough to completely take out
> all the play.  In most cases it didn't matter because the final cut would
> fix it, but in some cases I actually adjusted the Gcode so the second and
> any subsequent cuts was always coming from the direction as the first cut.
> I know the new CNCs have corrected this but the CNC upgrade to the LOM
> couldn't completely deal with this.  I just found a way to work around it.
>
> I also slowed the pace of work on my CNC as the entire mill could really
> rock around if I moved as fast as some of the stepper motors were capable
> of.
>
> Once the computer is talking to the CNC, the software Legacy provides
> (Conversational CAM) is actually pretty simple and most anyone could use
> it.  The challenge is just getting to that point.
>
> Tracy
>
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 2:35 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Legacy-ornamental-CNC-mill/254446633978?hash=item3b3e3383fa:g:P6IAAOSw2Bdd7EG0
>>
>>
>>
>> Iā€™m not sure a cnc mill that runs on the old aluminium rails would be
>> worth owning yes it will do everything the manual mill does but its all the
>> stuff our old mills canā€™t do is what I would be looking at and I donā€™t
>> think the aluminium rail mills are accurate enough, too much play in the
>> slides. the linier bearing rails are much more accurate witch I am assuming
>> is why legacy went that way. So as a hobbyist I agree with joe I wouldnā€™t
>> buy one.
>>
>> Mind you if I was a rich man Iā€™m sure there would be one sitting in my
>> shop šŸ˜Šit would be nice sitting sipping a nice drink watching the
>> machine do it all
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 10 December 2019 2:01 AM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: Legacy 1800 CNC for sale, and is CNC an option for the
>> occasional Legacy user?
>>
>>
>>
>> and as the seller has stated in their eBay listing, the 1800 was never
>> used... only put through the motions when setting up the programs on the
>> computer... a business venture they were considering never materialized...
>> so this machine is virtually new, never used
>>
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