Ian,

Do you mind sharing where you got the "huge 300GB package of .STL files"
and what you paid for it?

Thanks,
Tracy

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 4:38 AM IAN <igiudi...@twcny.rr.com> wrote:

> Right now I’m in the process of revamping a 900 that came with the cnc
> upgrade already on it. I had issues with not being able to get the A axis
> to do anything, and Legacy really wanted nothing to do with it. I tore out
> the original control box and motors and bought the Avid CNC ( cnc
> routerparts.com) Nema 23 kit. Bolts right in with no issue. It runs off
> of Mach 4, and I just use vcarve or fusion 360 to generate programs. I
> actually purchased a huge 300GB package of .STL files for all of my
> machines , but there are some nice rotary files in there.
>
>  I am at the point where I have installed a drag chain and run the wiring,
> now have to make brackets for the proximity sensors.
>
> Maybe this would be a good avenue for you?
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Ryan Jurgens <rtjurg...@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Monday, December 9, 2019 7:52 PM
> *To: *Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject: *Re: Legacy 1800 CNC for sale, and is CNC an option for the
> occasional Legacy user?
>
>
>
> I actually had quite a bit of experience on Giddings and Lewis machining
> center back in the late 80's and early 90's, that was on a five axis metal
> working machine. When I started seeing the CNC stuff on the legacy I wanted
> one, but about the time they were modifying the manual LOM's I was in the
> middle of my big 3.5 year house rebuilding project.
>
>
>
> Once the house was done I sat back for a few years and built up my wood
> shop, picking up some pretty nice equipment and built Murphy beds and lot's
> of end and night tables. I always thought about that CNC stuff, and got
> close to considering the Legacy Maverick CNC 4x8. $26k was a nit much, but
> I thought about all the things I could do with it . . . And then several
> trips to the Philippines kind of took on a life of its own. 😁
>
>
>
> Now that Teresita is here and I have a supportive wife, ( Uh, the trips to
> the Philippines had a benefit of epic proportions.) I am now thinking about
> all those fun things again, even finally putting together my New (old)
> model 1200 LOM.
>
> I have been doing some "stuff" on the 1200, but to be honest, my ultra
> technical experience on the Giddings & Lewis spoiled me. I was able to edit
> g code, manually entering lines into the programs directly on the machine
> console. Back then the computer generated code was "sent" from an old DOS
> 6.1 operating system program called Genesis over network lines to the
> machine console. From there I would pick it up and modify if and when
> needed, which it very often did. I could even manually produce simple
> programs for surfacing and making straight cuts of many types. This machine
> also had a 16 place tool holder, and of course, who wouldn't like to have
> that on a Legacy?
>
>
>
> I noted the comment on the router shifting a bit on the LOM when changing
> directions. I thought maybe I didn't assemble things quite right because I
> see that also. In addition, I see some play in the outer rails when making
> certain movements on the x and y axis cuts. I also have noted some drifting
> on the z axis, I have the upgrade, and I now am beginning to think that
> maybe the old plunge router sled might be more efficient for what I have
> been doing thus far on the 1200.
>
>
>
> JOE: you have the CNC package still in boxes? What would that go for it
> you sold it to someone who might think about using it?
>
>
>
> I have been thinking about modifying two LOM's to make a wide setup to
> flatten boards and to do cut outs on plywood sheets. Just rambling thoughts
> at this point. I have seen mills near here for a pretty los price that
> might make it feasible. Maybe.
>
>
>
> So, to CNC or not to CNC, that is A question.
>
>
>
> I too have a computer IT background. I spent 25 years in IT, first with
> building and implementing units and specializing in Windows operating
> systems, then software, then Network systems. And then 20 years of
> Government Public Safety System implementation and administration.
>
>
>
> During all that time, when I saw the CNC era come into play at Legacy, my
> heart was there. I visited John at Legacy in Utah four times during
> business trips, even spending an hour with Tracy as he was working on a
> project with the Maverick.
>
>
>
> Hmmm.
>
>
>
> I still think about it . . As I enjoy my retirement.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019, 4:05 PM Tracy Smith <trlsmit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> One of the things I definitely ran into was the slippage (don't remember
> the official term) when the CNC would change direction.  It is more
> accurate than what I did manually but I noticed that in some cases where
> the work was very detailed, I had to edit the Gcode and modify how the
> program worked so the cutting was always from the same direction.
>
>
>
> For example, when the CNC changed direction, the router in the Zaxis
> shifted very slightly.  I couldn't adjust it enough to completely take out
> all the play.  In most cases it didn't matter because the final cut would
> fix it, but in some cases I actually adjusted the Gcode so the second and
> any subsequent cuts was always coming from the direction as the first cut.
> I know the new CNCs have corrected this but the CNC upgrade to the LOM
> couldn't completely deal with this.  I just found a way to work around it.
>
>
>
> I also slowed the pace of work on my CNC as the entire mill could really
> rock around if I moved as fast as some of the stepper motors were capable
> of.
>
>
>
> Once the computer is talking to the CNC, the software Legacy provides
> (Conversational CAM) is actually pretty simple and most anyone could use
> it.  The challenge is just getting to that point.
>
>
>
> Tracy
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 2:35 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Legacy-ornamental-CNC-mill/254446633978?hash=item3b3e3383fa:g:P6IAAOSw2Bdd7EG0
>
>
>
> I’m not sure a cnc mill that runs on the old aluminium rails would be
> worth owning yes it will do everything the manual mill does but its all the
> stuff our old mills can’t do is what I would be looking at and I don’t
> think the aluminium rail mills are accurate enough, too much play in the
> slides. the linier bearing rails are much more accurate witch I am assuming
> is why legacy went that way. So as a hobbyist I agree with joe I wouldn’t
> buy one.
>
> Mind you if I was a rich man I’m sure there would be one sitting in my
> shop 😊it would be nice sitting sipping a nice drink watching the machine
> do it all
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 10 December 2019 2:01 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy 1800 CNC for sale, and is CNC an option for the
> occasional Legacy user?
>
>
>
> and as the seller has stated in their eBay listing, the 1800 was never
> used... only put through the motions when setting up the programs on the
> computer... a business venture they were considering never materialized...
> so this machine is virtually new, never used
>
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