Thena, As I suggested, should you wish you can leave both of the unknown fathers with the surname of "Unknown".
Ron Ferguson _____________________________________________________________________ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _____________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] half siblings do not show in all family views > Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:00:57 -0400 > > Hi Ron, > > Both of your messages came through. Oddly enough, mine also took several > hours before it appeared. > > I followed your steps; and as you said, it made all the children appear > correctly in all family views. > > Looks like this is one time when we have to add spouses with fake names > instead of adding the mother to the children (without adding a father to > each child). > > I thought, for a few minutes, that deleting the first name FIRST from First > Unknown made him and his child disappear. Wrong. I was also experimenting > with setting both Mr. Unknowns to Private, and I accidentally set that > marriage to private instead of the person. So, of course, he and the child > disappeared. I cleared the checkmark and they were back. > > Thanks for working through this. > > --Thena > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of ronald ferguson > Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 4:41 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] half siblings do not show in all family views > > > Thena, > > I do hate complicated messed up families, I have some myself, so you have my > sympathies! > > Thank you for the table it is so much easier to see what is going on when > set down like that rather than in words. > > Following this table I constructed the family, with, perhaps, one > difference: I actually named the unknown partners "First Unknown" and > "Second Unknown", mainly so that I could identify the two separate unknown > fathers. > > I then unlinked all the marriages using the *mother* as the base person in > every case. I am not saying it won't work using the father just that I > didn't and it may be different. After all the unlinking you will see that > the mother still has 3 (now) "unknown" partners as the kids are still > linked, *Delete* (not unlink) these "marriage links". > > Now I reconstructed the families in *the order in which they were created* - > as per your table - noting whether the families were not married and/or > didn't have children as I went along. I also added the appropriate child as > I went along. > > This resulted in families with all the 1/2 kids intact. Then I deleted the > "First Unknown" and the result was exactly as you described. On adding the > name "First Unknown" then for *all* families the 1/2 kids were correct. This > also applies, as one would expect to the "Second Unknown" > > Finally, I deleted the given name "First" just leaving the surname as > "Unknown" for the first unknown and all families were still correct. > Similarly for the "Second Unknown" > > I can understand why this happens and I am not certain it is a bug, but it > does seem that where there are two unknown partners then both of them must > specifically have a name - even both are the same eg. "Unknown". > > I hope this helps. > > Ron Ferguson > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ > For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > _____________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------- >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [LegacyUG] half siblings do not show in all family views >> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:57:35 -0400 >> >> Hello, >> >> Not all of the half-siblings appear in children's lists of the mother's 5 >> Family Views. I have selected to "show 1/2 kids." This is a complicated >> family and I hope I am clear about this. >> >> (I am using version 7.0.0.109, on Windows Vista.) >> >> The mother had three children, all different fathers. She was married > twice >> (no children), and had children from 3 relationships. I have the name of > one >> of those fathers. Originally I did not have the children assigned to > correct >> fathers; I had assigned them to the two husbands. >> >> When I found more information on their parentage, I fixed the family like >> this: >> >> I unlinked all children. I added another husband (the known relationship), >> and edited the marriage to show they were not married. Now I had 3 named >> males, linked as spouses/relationships to the mother. So far so good. >> >> Then I added back the children, in order of birth. For the 1st and 3rd >> children, I selected that child and added the mother only (link to > existing >> person). For the second child, I used the family view that showed his > mother >> and father, and added the son (link to existing person). >> >> When I bring up the mother's Spouse list and select either of the entries >> for "unknown", one of the children - one of the 2 daughters - disappears >> from the children list. >> >> 1. Husband1 - no children family view shows all 3 children >> 2. unknown - child 1 family view shows his child, and >> child 2 >> 3. Husband2 - no children family view shows all 3 children >> 4. named relationship - child 2 family view shows all 3 children >> 5. unknown - child 3 family view shows his child, and >> child 2 >> >> I have gone into each "marriage" and checked "had no children" (for the >> spouses) and "this couple did not marry" (for the relationships). This >> didn't make any difference in which children show for the unknowns. >> >> I ran file maintenance - check/repair. >> >> If I click on one of the "disappearing" children (1 or 3) so she is in the >> female box, and then view her siblings, I should see >> >> this person >> 1/2 brother >> 1/2 sister >> >> Instead, the 1/2 sister does not have the "1/2" before her name. However, > if >> I deselect "show half brothers and sisters" then both siblings disappear > (as >> they should.) >> >> How can I get the missing 1/2 sibling to show when the family view > includes >> one of the unknown relationships? >> >> --Thena >> _________________________________________________________________ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
