You said: "HTML does allow indices and have yet to find them not appearing as superscripts, and I produce many thousands of Legacy generated HTML pages each month."
Individual Report, Family Group Records, Descendant Chart, Ancestor Chart, and Lineage Chart, all of which have the check box for HTML, and which do produce Indices in Preview and PDF, do NOT produce Indices in either text or HTML. Individual Report and Family Group Records, which allow sources, DO produce Sources in both HTML and Text. CE -----Original Message----- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Ron Ferguson Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 2:51 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, & other bugs in reports All programs, whether genealogy ones or otherwise, can only produce what is allowed by software specifications. For examaple it is not possible to have indices in a .txt file, the number itself will appear, but not superscripted. Nor will such a file allow diagrams. In general, and I am not saying always it is restrictions such as these which limit the form of the output. I do not suggest that is the sole reason only mostly! I imagine some are not available because nobody thought that someone might wish to produce something in a format which is never used for that purpose (can't think of an example at present though). RTFs are a constant problem as different programs seem to have different interpretations of the specification, so there is a lack of consistency between programs - about the only thing which is constant with RTFs :-). As someone else observed wrt to PDFs the one in question could simply have been to big for the PC no matter how much RAM was available. I've never had a problem with them, but I am never likely to have 400 pages either. HTML does allow indices and have yet to find them not appearing as superscripts, and I produce many thousands of Legacy generated HTML pages each month. There were problems with Sources when V7 was first released but apart from an odd unusual one which crops up occasionally, I would say they have now been resolved. All software has their own idiocincracies which to someone used to another similar product (and that is not a comment directed at yourself, as I have no idea as to your experience with other software) might be regarded as a bug. I did not, btw, suggest that you were asking for a wordprocessor, simply that the discussion was yet again drifting in that well documented direction. Ron Ferguson _____________________________________________________ New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ ____________________________________________________ CE Wood wrote: >> I am not asking Legacy to be a word processor. I am asking that, >> when a report is Previewed and there are check boxes for printing >> various types of files, that those options be produced in whatever >> format which has a checkbox. >> >> The simplest would be a text file because then you could format the >> file in your word processor. >> >> When the opening page allows you to choose Index Options, you assume >> that the indices will be produced in whatever format is allowed, i.e. >> Screen/Printer, Text file, HTML, RTF, PDF. >> >> When the Preview shows you a report that includes indices, you >> assume that when produced in one of the formats with a check box, >> that the indices will be produced when you choose one of those >> formats. >> >> This does not happen! The indices are missing!!! >> >> THAT is what the problem is. >> >> >> CE >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On >> Behalf Of Ron Ferguson >> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 1:19 PM >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, & other >> bugs in reports >> >> Jim, >> >> Whilst I broadly agree with you comments regarding the Legacy >> reporting (except for the blank page which I have never experienced) >> as I have said before, it is my belief that those asking for what >> would amount to a fully fledged word processor as part of the >> program are asking for far too much. The total size of the package >> would be far too big for many, and why should Legacy reinvent the >> wheel when it is there in Word, Open Office and a number >> >> of other programs. >> >> If it is ever done then let us add onto the list a fully fledged web >> page designer, after all, why should the web creation section of >> users be not have an equivalent tool for their chosen method of >> publication. Naturally, it should have the attributes of Dreamweaver >> or Front Page in order to meet all the demands which may be >> required. It shouldn't really be any bigger than a word processor >> and the total package should come in at not a lot more >> >> than 200MB. >> >> Pity that this is too big for Africa and the rural areas of many >> other countries (including the USA) where dial up is on the only >> access, but those >> >> of us with broadband should be fine. Or maybe we should have several >> different versions with escalating prices in order to meet all the >> available >> >> customisations. >> >> Please don't think that I am suggesting for one minute, Jim, that >> this is your view, I feel sure that it isn't. In one form or an >> other this argument has been going on for years, so please excuse >> the rant :-) >> >> Ron Ferguson >> >> _____________________________________________________ >> >> New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website >> http://www.fergys.co.uk >> Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw >> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ >> For The Fergusons of N.W. England >> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ >> ____________________________________________________ >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jim Walton >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Sent: 07 October 2009 20:42 >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, & other >> bugs in reports >> >> >> A pdf file is an image, similar to a jpg file. If it is created from >> a text file it has a text layer that can be indexed and modified, >> etc. It's quite easy to move a text or rtf file into pdf format, but >> a totally different matter to go the other way. >> >> I think the problem is that Legacy is a genealogical tool, not a >> reporting tool. The reporting section is very cumbersome and has no >> real formatting capabilities beyond the bare minimum. It might be >> better for them to partner >> >> with another company/program for the reporting functions. So far the >> main use I've seen in the report feature is to dump reports to the >> printer for proofreading and database corrections. I could never >> conceive of using it to >> >> create a document for publication. >> >> I did try to create one rtf report and got a single page that told >> me I could now import into my word processor and create an index >> because all the headings used heading tags. Very convenient, but the >> rest of the report was blank. (grin) >> >> Jim >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:21 AM, CE Wood <wood...@msn.com> wrote: >> >> The problem / BUG is that when the report is Previewed or in PDF, The >> Index/Indices is shown/printed. When it is Text or RTF (if allowed) >> the Index/Indices are NOT! >> >> If a report shows something in Preview, it needs to print it in ALL >> permissible formats! >> >> >> CE >> >> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On >> Behalf Of Jim Walton >> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:08 PM >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No report indices in text format, & other >> bugs in reports >> >> >> It seems to be designed that way. If you go through each of the >> reports you will see what printing options are available on the >> right, under the image of the printer. Family and descendant will >> do text, html, and pdf. Pedigree will only do pdf. Not sure why they >> aren't available in rtf because it is certainly capable of doing it. >> My plan is to do all my writing in Word, and importing a pdf of >> group sheets, etc. as images into the document. I'm just >> disappointed that I can't create an rtf of the source report so that >> I could then create a bibliography and reference that in my text. >> >> Jim >> >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:23 AM, CE Wood <wood...@msn.com> wrote: >> I am trying to produce Individual, Family, Ancestor, Descendant, and >> Lineage Reports. When I choose Text file or HTML (there is no >> option for RTF), the file is produced without any indices, even >> though both Name and Location indices have been selected and do >> appear in Preview and PDF. >> >> Also, when using Publishing Center, the HTML report includes only >> the first chapter of the book even though Preview and PDF include >> all the chapters. >> >> And, in the book, the Name Index for the book includes ONLY the >> names from the first chapter. >> >> >> CE >> Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. 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