David, Your remarks about how and when a census is conducted do not necessarily apply to other countries. In all the constituent countries of the UK the census takes place over night on a Sat/Sun and is completed there and then, and not spread over a period of time.
Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: David C Abernathy Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Facts, Events and Sources Go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fact And compare the two. "The word fact can refer to verified information about past or present circumstances or events which are presented as objective reality" "Event can refer to many things such as:" and a LONG list of event types. My thought, a fact is the record of an event. The "Census" is the event, but we refer to the record of the event, same as the birth, marriage, and death. The census were taken and the questions were based on the date required by law, not the date that census was really taken. Even today when we fill out the forms, we are to answer base on the date required. We have (I) filled them out before AND after the required date. I have filled out about 5 forms and I know I did NOT do it on the day in question, so did I even get it right, who knows. The last one, we did fill it out the day we received it in the mail and then mailed it on the day of census was to be taken. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == -----Original Message----- From: Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 6:42 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Facts, Events and Sources Good summary Mike. Death is an event (having its own data area), a funeral is an event, an award ceremony is an event, blue eyes are a fact, a missing finger is a fact, all of these can be substantiated by a source (certificate, newspaper article, medical statement, personal knowledge, etc). While being in the newspaper for some may seem like an event or fact----the newspaper entry is merely reporting on the event/fact taking place resulting in the article. Your 'if it's on paper it's a source' applies to every application I can think of; I've used the same rule for years. Some may choose to enter a census, a newspaper article, or any number of other 'sources' as events/facts because of the way they appear when printed or sorted----that's a formatting preference----and possibly a limitation of the program----but never-the-less they remain 'sources'. Gary On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Mike Fry <[email protected]> wrote: Portions removed. > A Source is not an Event, but it can be proof of a Fact or an Event e.g. a > census. Generally, a piece of physical evidence is involved. Thus, Rons' > assertion that an image of a Census form is a Source and not a Fact or and > Event > and the obvious consequence that an Obituary should also be a Source and > not a > Fact or an Event. > > My general rule of thumb is: if it's a piece of paper (digital images and > transcriptions not withstanding) it's a Source! Sources contain evidence > of > Facts and Events. > > -- > Regards, > Mike Fry > Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
