This thread seems to be mixing up a couple of concepts. We recognize that the database is normally updated immediately and there is no user-level undo function. However, the question should be regarding a dialog that does offer a Cancel button -- such as the Individual's Information screen. Clearly a Cancel will not commit any changes, and appears not to revise the last-modified time. So, in this case where the screen offers both a Save and a Cancel button, what should the Close button (i.e., the Windows X button) do? I have used a lot of applications and I have been a software tester. My intuition has been that Close should equal Cancel. Thus, I feel strongly that Legacy should be changed to prompt the user to save or not when attempting the Close button (in such cases where Cancel was offered/possible).
Ward ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using "x" to exit/cancel - bug? I can see both sides of this discussion. I guess the key is, as you infer, use only cancel to nullify what was changed and do not use X. I guess instinctively I rarely use X within a dialog window. Some programs, such as Quicken, will update a transaction immediately if you hit enter, but if you attempt to go someplace else before you hit enter, you will get a warning. So, I admit there are some differences in how programs handle this. -Jerry "M. Brenzel" <[email protected]> wrote: >To all, > >That is how Access has always worked. It is a database app in which you >can make updates or adds via a form or within a grid. Once you leave the >"field", the change has been saved. > >Please everyone, clicking on the X will not cancel a change in an Access >database unless it is to the view (layout). This is expected and normal >behavior for MS Access. > >This is NOT a bug! > >Mary > >Sent from my iPad > >On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:14 PM, "Sherry/Support" <[email protected]> >wrote: > >> No - please double check this. >> >> Word, Excel, Powerpoint, etc gives you the "save" question when you exit. >> >> But in Access, when you make an edit and go to the next cell, then the >> change is saved and there's no need to click on save to retain that >> edit. >> >> Make an edit in Access without changing anything else - column width, >> sort, etc. >> >> You will get *no* warning when you click on the "X" in the upper right >> corner to exit. >> >> But if you make changes to the *layout*, you'll get a prompt >> >> "Do you want to save changes to the layout of the table?" >> >> At least this is how Access 2010 worked for me when I tested this. >> >> >> Sincerely, >> Sherry >> Technical Support >> Legacy Family Tree >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 9:49 AM, CE WOOD <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> There are many places in Legacy where an edit or change is saved even if >>> you >>> click Cancel before you exit the page on which you made the changes. >>> >>> But, more to the point: >>> Legacy is based on Access; >>> Access is an Microsoft Office program; >>> Microsoft Office programs ALWAYS ask if you want to save your changes >>> whenever you click on the "x". >>> >>> That includes changes to any cells, columns, rows, etc. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
