Yeah, I understand and don't mean to be dogmatic about it. But I do think that your reports might come out better by treating events as sources, rather than events.
Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 2/22/2012 11:18 PM, Lea-Anne Davison wrote: > I think I am on the fence with the source vs event debate and > certainly it wasn't my intention to start it up again. All I want is > a way for the report to be easy to read and not have endless > repetitions of the event that I put in, at this point - census. I > will take the time to experiment and come up something that suits me. > Lea-Anne > > On 23 February 2012 14:09, Jerry<[email protected]> wrote: >> I think Ron is in the UK and it is about 5 in the morning there, I >> think, so you can probably expect him to answer later. But I almost >> find it hysterical that a census is considered an event in someone's >> life, despite the fact that many professionals advocate for that. >> That's sort of like saying a newspaper is an event in someone's life >> because they might be mentioned in the newspaper, or an obituary is an >> event in someone's life because, certainly, they are mentioned in the >> obituary. Clearly, they are sources, not events, and I prefer to use my >> Merriam-Webster roots to provide the correct definition. LOL! >> >> But the other side is, that most users will definitely not want to wade >> through lots of information about their ancestors that most of us >> "genealogists" might even have some difficulty deciphering. They want a >> brief synopsis that tells them the story and most of them, even me, >> detest wading through endless, not needed, information. So, keep it >> simple, comes to mind, but I realize most of the ones who disagree on >> this issue are very smart people, just mis-informed about the dictionary >> definitions on this subject. >> >> Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org >> >> On 2/22/2012 10:40 PM, Lea-Anne Davison wrote: >>> I think I will experient with what has been suggested. I realise >>> there is no right or wrong way, but how it looks in the report is an >>> important part for me. I think I will try putting in an event whether >>> I call in Event or Residence not sure yet with an condensed >>> description of the family in the census eg John Smith was living with >>> his wife and children (perhaps name each but keep it short). Then >>> source the census with the full details in the text field and see how >>> that looks for the reports. Whether I print it as part of the >>> citation I will decide after I see how it looks but at least this way >>> it will only be once at the end of the report and not repeated all >>> through the report. >>> Thanks everyone for your thoughts. >>> Lea-Anne >>> >>> On 23 February 2012 13:31, Paula Ryburn<[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> Lea-Anne, I do use census events, but I don't have the transcription of >>>> the >>>> entire household in every event. I use a more narrative style and include >>>> just that person's information. For the couple, I add the event to the >>>> marriage. In fact, if I have the image, I don't have the transcription >>>> anywhere, because I can just pull up the image if I need to see something >>>> and neither the image nor transcriptions add anything to the reports that I >>>> use. Even on those census sources where I have just transcriptions (have >>>> yet to obtain an image and see what was entered for myself), I have the >>>> transcription in the source, but I don't print it as part of the citation >>>> (entered in the Text field without checking that box). Hope this made >>>> sense. But as Ron has said "not a recommendation" - just describing how I >>>> do it in case it can be helpful to you. >>>> >>>> Note: if you do end up re-doing events, remember to use the event clipboard >>>> -- I mention this explicitly because I only very recently learned about >>>> this >>>> feature and it is wonderful, very quick! >>>> >>>> --Paula in Texas >>>> Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman >>>> Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline >>>> Field >>>> Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes >>>> Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts >>>> Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Lea-Anne Davison<[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Wed, February 22, 2012 6:42:45 PM >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in >>>> readable reports >>>> >>>> Ron >>>> Yes I do add as a Census Event. I use the census source as a source >>>> for name and approx date of birth. Correct me if I am wrong, you are >>>> saying you have a residence event instead of an actual census event, >>>> which the census is used as the source. Are the names etc entered >>>> into the source as per Geoff's webinar. If so where are they entered >>>> and does this then only show as one source at the end of the report >>>> Lea-Anne >>>> >>>> On 23 February 2012 10:35, Ron Ferguson<[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Lea-Anne, >>>>> >>>>> Am I right in thinking that you have a Census Event? If so this is one of >>>>> the reasons why I don't, and why I only use a census as a Source for eg. >>>>> name, occupations, residences etc. >>>>> >>>>> Ron Ferguson >>>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/ >>>>> >>>> <snip> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Legacy User Group guidelines: >>>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >>>> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >>>> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >>>> our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >>>> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >>> >>> >>> >>> Legacy User Group guidelines: >>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >>> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >>> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >>> our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >>> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >>> >>> >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >> our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> >> > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on > our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). 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