Sorry, I meant to say ...better by treating a census as a source, rather than as an event...
Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 2/22/2012 11:33 PM, Jerry wrote: > Yeah, I understand and don't mean to be dogmatic about it. But I do > think that your reports might come out better by treating events as > sources, rather than events. > > Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org > > On 2/22/2012 11:18 PM, Lea-Anne Davison wrote: >> I think I am on the fence with the source vs event debate and >> certainly it wasn't my intention to start it up again. All I want is >> a way for the report to be easy to read and not have endless >> repetitions of the event that I put in, at this point - census. I >> will take the time to experiment and come up something that suits me. >> Lea-Anne >> >> On 23 February 2012 14:09, Jerry<[email protected]> wrote: >>> I think Ron is in the UK and it is about 5 in the morning there, I >>> think, so you can probably expect him to answer later. But I almost >>> find it hysterical that a census is considered an event in someone's >>> life, despite the fact that many professionals advocate for that. >>> That's sort of like saying a newspaper is an event in someone's life >>> because they might be mentioned in the newspaper, or an obituary is an >>> event in someone's life because, certainly, they are mentioned in the >>> obituary. Clearly, they are sources, not events, and I prefer to use my >>> Merriam-Webster roots to provide the correct definition. LOL! >>> >>> But the other side is, that most users will definitely not want to wade >>> through lots of information about their ancestors that most of us >>> "genealogists" might even have some difficulty deciphering. They want a >>> brief synopsis that tells them the story and most of them, even me, >>> detest wading through endless, not needed, information. So, keep it >>> simple, comes to mind, but I realize most of the ones who disagree on >>> this issue are very smart people, just mis-informed about the dictionary >>> definitions on this subject. >>> >>> Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org >>> >>> On 2/22/2012 10:40 PM, Lea-Anne Davison wrote: >>>> I think I will experient with what has been suggested. I realise >>>> there is no right or wrong way, but how it looks in the report is an >>>> important part for me. I think I will try putting in an event whether >>>> I call in Event or Residence not sure yet with an condensed >>>> description of the family in the census eg John Smith was living with >>>> his wife and children (perhaps name each but keep it short). Then >>>> source the census with the full details in the text field and see how >>>> that looks for the reports. Whether I print it as part of the >>>> citation I will decide after I see how it looks but at least this way >>>> it will only be once at the end of the report and not repeated all >>>> through the report. >>>> Thanks everyone for your thoughts. >>>> Lea-Anne >>>> >>>> On 23 February 2012 13:31, Paula Ryburn<[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Lea-Anne, I do use census events, but I don't have the transcription of >>>>> the >>>>> entire household in every event. I use a more narrative style and include >>>>> just that person's information. For the couple, I add the event to the >>>>> marriage. In fact, if I have the image, I don't have the transcription >>>>> anywhere, because I can just pull up the image if I need to see something >>>>> and neither the image nor transcriptions add anything to the reports that >>>>> I >>>>> use. Even on those census sources where I have just transcriptions (have >>>>> yet to obtain an image and see what was entered for myself), I have the >>>>> transcription in the source, but I don't print it as part of the citation >>>>> (entered in the Text field without checking that box). Hope this made >>>>> sense. But as Ron has said "not a recommendation" - just describing how I >>>>> do it in case it can be helpful to you. >>>>> >>>>> Note: if you do end up re-doing events, remember to use the event >>>>> clipboard >>>>> -- I mention this explicitly because I only very recently learned about >>>>> this >>>>> feature and it is wonderful, very quick! >>>>> >>>>> --Paula in Texas >>>>> Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton >>>>> Chapman >>>>> Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline >>>>> Field >>>>> Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes >>>>> Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts >>>>> Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> From: Lea-Anne Davison<[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Wed, February 22, 2012 6:42:45 PM >>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in >>>>> readable reports >>>>> >>>>> Ron >>>>> Yes I do add as a Census Event. I use the census source as a source >>>>> for name and approx date of birth. Correct me if I am wrong, you are >>>>> saying you have a residence event instead of an actual census event, >>>>> which the census is used as the source. Are the names etc entered >>>>> into the source as per Geoff's webinar. If so where are they entered >>>>> and does this then only show as one source at the end of the report >>>>> Lea-Anne >>>>> >>>>> On 23 February 2012 10:35, Ron Ferguson<[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Lea-Anne, >>>>>> >>>>>> Am I right in thinking that you have a Census Event? If so this is one of >>>>>> the reasons why I don't, and why I only use a census as a Source for eg. >>>>>> name, occupations, residences etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ron Ferguson >>>>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/ >>>>>> >>>>> <snip> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Legacy User Group guidelines: >>>>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >>>>> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >>>>> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and >>>>> on >>>>> our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >>>>> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Legacy User Group guidelines: >>>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >>>> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >>>> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and >>>> on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >>>> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Legacy User Group guidelines: >>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >>> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >>> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >>> our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >>> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >>> >>> >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >> our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> >> > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on > our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). 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