Very impressive site. Please don't take my question/comment as an insult to your research or website.
I have one question. Not all places in your lists have 4 fields with commas in place of missing fields. Why is that? I also have one comment. I don't think there is anything odder than to see multiple commas next to each other in your list of places. Seeing "Adams, , New York, USA" instead of "Adams, Jefferson County, New York, USA" is an indication of incomplete research. It is so easy to find which county a town/village/city is in, especially with the Internet. Mary -----Original Message----- From: Jerry [mailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 7:57 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to document Locations in Europe 5 Fields vs 4 Fields Hi again Mary. I think you are misunderstanding the whole sorting system in terms of how most websites do the sorting. It is not simply a matter of whether you go from the left to right or right to left, it is how the sorting schemes deal with each division. If you want to see where I'm coming from, I welcome you to go to our website at http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org (enter FullGuest as username and merriam as password). Then go to the Places menu where you will that when you click on COUNTRY, then you next can see all the STATES and PROVINCES together in a list, then drill down to COUNTIES, and then to CITIES. This is the way most websites are set up to do sorting and you can't do that without regard to how many divisions you use. I hope you will go take a look and then I think you will know exactly where I'm coming from, even if you don't think it is necessary. Regards, Jerry Boor - http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org On 03/11/2012 07:31 PM, M. Brenzel wrote: > It doesn't matter how many fields you have in your locations. Sorting right > to left puts the largest entity first, whatever that may be. > > I believe that your location examples below somehow got messed up in your > message. You have multiple occurrences of Michigan and United States in your > locations. > > Sorting what I believe you have below from right to left would be as follows: > > England, London, 195 Sunset Blvd., Roosevelt Cemetery United States, > Michigan, Detroit United States, Michigan, Wayne County, Detroit > United States, Michigan, Wayne County, Detroit, 123 Apple Street > > I don't know why you would have Detroit listed twice, once with Wayne County > and once without it. > > But sorting this way, all of the locations in Detroit, Wayne County, > Michigan, United States (with or without street numbers and names, cemetery > names, or anything else) will appear together in the Location List. > > It's really a very easy concept. Try it! You might like it! You can always > change it back if you don't like it. Keep in mind, this sorting is just for > the display of the Master Location List, not how the locations are displayed > in context. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry [mailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 5:57 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to document Locations in Europe 5 Fields > vs 4 Fields > > I'm trying to understand that thinking, Mary. But how could that work if, > for example, you had the following? > > Detroit, Michigan, United States > Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan, United States Michigan, United States > 123 Apple Street, Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan, United States Wayne > County, Michigan, United States Roosevelt Cemetery, 195 Sunset Blvd, > London, England > > You would be ok with United States and England as COUNTRIES, but then moving > left, it looks like you would have dissimilar entities together like: > > SECOND DIVISION FROM RIGHT: > Michigan > Michigan > Michigan > Michigan > Michigan > London > > THIRD DIVISION FROM RIGHT: > Detroit > Wayne County > (blank) > Wayne County > Wayne County > 195 Sunset Blvd > > FOURTH DIVISION FROM RIGHT: > (blank) > Detroit > (blank) > Detroit > Roosevelt Cemetery > > FIFTH DIVISION FROM RIGHT: > (blank) > (blank) > (blank) > 123 Apple Street > (blank) > > So, what part of this am I not understanding, if so? > > Thanks, > Jerry Boor - http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org > > On 03/11/2012 11:56 AM, M. Brenzel wrote: >> If you sort your location list right to left, they will sort >> properly, even with different numbers of fields. >> >> Mary >> >> *From:*John Magyari [mailto:jmagy...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Sunday, March 11, 2012 8:08 AM >> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] How to document Locations in Europe 5 >> Fields vs 4 Fields >> >> Thanks for everyone's ideas. >> Some of my Polish time periods use 4 some 5 positions >> >> I decided to force all 5 location positions into 4. Having same >> number of fields helps with sorting. >> >> Ideally if would be nice to specify Number of locations field MAX. >> Then if entered with less fields specify which fields to become null. >> ie. MaxPositions = 5, LessPositionOrder if less 2,3if less than MAX >> ie For Me for Poland city, administration, county, state, country >> (1,2,3,4,5) If less fields entered enter Nulls city, county, state, >> country (Null 1 field - admin) city, state, country (Null other 2 >> fields -admin, county) city, state (Null other 3 fields) state (Null >> other 4 fields) >> >> >> I will use 4 fields, and in the process converted all locations with >> fewer positions to 4 position system. >> >> john >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 3/11/2012 4:04 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: >> >> John, >> >>  >> >> By all means use the American four field standard for American >> locations, but for other countries use their own formats, normally >> the way in which they are written. >> >>  >> >> Ron Ferguson >> >> http://www.fergys.co.uk/ >> >>  >> >>  >> >> *From:*John Magyari<mailto:jmagy...@gmail.com> >> >> *Sent:*Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:35 PM >> >> *To:*LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >> <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com> >> >> *Subject:*[LegacyUG] How to document Locations in Europe 5 Fields vs >> 4 Fields >> >>  >> >> Typically for US locations i have ****4 FIELDS City, County, State, >> Country >> >> How do others handle European Countries? >> >> For example I have a village in Poland Area >> >> 1900's part of Austria Hungary >> >> Village, District, Province, Country ****4 FIELDS Lipowiec, Sanok >> District, Galicia Province, Austria-Hungary >> >> Same place in 1940's ****4 FIELDS >> Lipowiec, Sanok District, Krosno Voivodeship, Poland >> >> Almost all places in Current Day Poland 1950's through today *****5 >> FIELDS City, Gmina, County, Voivodeship, COUNTRY Lipowiec, Dukla >> Gmina, Krosno County<wlmailhtml://wiki/Krosno_County>, >> Subcarpathian Voivodeship >> <wlmailhtml://wiki/Subcarpathian_Voivodeship>, >> Poland >> >> and since 2012 *****5 Fields >> Lipowiec, Jasliska Gmina, Krosno County >> <wlmailhtml://wiki/Krosno_County>, Subcarpathian Voivodeship >> <wlmailhtml://wiki/Subcarpathian_Voivodeship>, Poland >> >> When some locations ideally be 5 FIELDS, do you go back and update >> those with 4 Fields? >> >> With some having 4 some having 5 it's also harder sorting and then >> viewing similar towns over time periods. >> >> thanks, >> john magyari >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) >> and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) >> and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) >> and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on > our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on > our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). 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