Sorry, I stated STATES and PROVINCES, but the provinces will be in their own list when clicking on CANADA, since they have PROVINCES and the United States does not. Jerry
On 03/11/2012 07:56 PM, Jerry wrote: > Hi again Mary. I think you are misunderstanding the whole sorting > system in terms of how most websites do the sorting. It is not simply a > matter of whether you go from the left to right or right to left, it is > how the sorting schemes deal with each division. If you want to see > where I'm coming from, I welcome you to go to our website at > http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org (enter FullGuest as username and > merriam as password). Then go to the Places menu where you will that > when you click on COUNTRY, then you next can see all the STATES and > PROVINCES together in a list, then drill down to COUNTIES, and then to > CITIES. This is the way most websites are set up to do sorting and you > can't do that without regard to how many divisions you use. I hope you > will go take a look and then I think you will know exactly where I'm > coming from, even if you don't think it is necessary. > > Regards, > Jerry Boor - http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org > > On 03/11/2012 07:31 PM, M. Brenzel wrote: >> It doesn't matter how many fields you have in your locations. Sorting right >> to left puts the largest entity first, whatever that may be. >> >> I believe that your location examples below somehow got messed up in your >> message. You have multiple occurrences of Michigan and United States in >> your locations. >> >> Sorting what I believe you have below from right to left would be as follows: >> >> England, London, 195 Sunset Blvd., Roosevelt Cemetery >> United States, Michigan, Detroit >> United States, Michigan, Wayne County, Detroit >> United States, Michigan, Wayne County, Detroit, 123 Apple Street >> >> I don't know why you would have Detroit listed twice, once with Wayne County >> and once without it. >> >> But sorting this way, all of the locations in Detroit, Wayne County, >> Michigan, United States (with or without street numbers and names, cemetery >> names, or anything else) will appear together in the Location List. >> >> It's really a very easy concept. Try it! You might like it! You can >> always change it back if you don't like it. Keep in mind, this sorting is >> just for the display of the Master Location List, not how the locations are >> displayed in context. >> >> Mary >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jerry [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 5:57 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to document Locations in Europe 5 Fields vs 4 >> Fields >> >> I'm trying to understand that thinking, Mary. But how could that work if, >> for example, you had the following? >> >> Detroit, Michigan, United States >> Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan, United States Michigan, United States >> 123 Apple Street, Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan, United States Wayne >> County, Michigan, United States Roosevelt Cemetery, 195 Sunset Blvd, London, >> England >> >> You would be ok with United States and England as COUNTRIES, but then moving >> left, it looks like you would have dissimilar entities together like: >> >> SECOND DIVISION FROM RIGHT: >> Michigan >> Michigan >> Michigan >> Michigan >> Michigan >> London >> >> THIRD DIVISION FROM RIGHT: >> Detroit >> Wayne County >> (blank) >> Wayne County >> Wayne County >> 195 Sunset Blvd >> >> FOURTH DIVISION FROM RIGHT: >> (blank) >> Detroit >> (blank) >> Detroit >> Roosevelt Cemetery >> >> FIFTH DIVISION FROM RIGHT: >> (blank) >> (blank) >> (blank) >> 123 Apple Street >> (blank) >> >> So, what part of this am I not understanding, if so? >> >> Thanks, >> Jerry Boor - http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org >> >> On 03/11/2012 11:56 AM, M. Brenzel wrote: >>> If you sort your location list right to left, they will sort properly, >>> even with different numbers of fields. >>> >>> Mary >>> >>> *From:*John Magyari [mailto:[email protected]] >>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 11, 2012 8:08 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] How to document Locations in Europe 5 Fields >>> vs 4 Fields >>> >>> Thanks for everyone's ideas. >>> Some of my Polish time periods use 4 some 5 positions >>> >>> I decided to force all 5 location positions into 4. Having same >>> number of fields helps with sorting. >>> >>> Ideally if would be nice to specify Number of locations field MAX. >>> Then if entered with less fields specify which fields to become null. >>> ie. MaxPositions = 5, LessPositionOrder if less 2,3if less than MAX >>> ie For Me for Poland city, administration, county, state, country >>> (1,2,3,4,5) If less fields entered enter Nulls city, county, state, >>> country (Null 1 field - admin) city, state, country (Null other 2 >>> fields -admin, county) city, state (Null other 3 fields) state (Null >>> other 4 fields) >>> >>> >>> I will use 4 fields, and in the process converted all locations with >>> fewer positions to 4 position system. >>> >>> john >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3/11/2012 4:04 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: >>> >>> John, >>> >>>  >>> >>> By all means use the American four field standard for American >>> locations, but for other countries use their own formats, normally the >>> way in which they are written. >>> >>>  >>> >>> Ron Ferguson >>> >>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/ >>> >>>  >>> >>>  >>> >>> *From:*John Magyari<mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>> *Sent:*Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:35 PM >>> >>> *To:*[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>> *Subject:*[LegacyUG] How to document Locations in Europe 5 Fields vs 4 >>> Fields >>> >>>  >>> >>> Typically for US locations i have ****4 FIELDS City, County, State, >>> Country >>> >>> How do others handle European Countries? >>> >>> For example I have a village in Poland Area >>> >>> 1900's part of Austria Hungary >>> >>> Village, District, Province, Country ****4 FIELDS Lipowiec, Sanok >>> District, Galicia Province, Austria-Hungary >>> >>> Same place in 1940's ****4 FIELDS >>> Lipowiec, Sanok District, Krosno Voivodeship, Poland >>> >>> Almost all places in Current Day Poland 1950's through today *****5 >>> FIELDS City, Gmina, County, Voivodeship, COUNTRY Lipowiec, Dukla >>> Gmina, Krosno County<wlmailhtml://wiki/Krosno_County>, >>> Subcarpathian Voivodeship >>> <wlmailhtml://wiki/Subcarpathian_Voivodeship>, >>> Poland >>> >>> and since 2012 *****5 Fields >>> Lipowiec, Jasliska Gmina, Krosno County >>> <wlmailhtml://wiki/Krosno_County>, Subcarpathian Voivodeship >>> <wlmailhtml://wiki/Subcarpathian_Voivodeship>, Poland >>> >>> When some locations ideally be 5 FIELDS, do you go back and update >>> those with 4 Fields? >>> >>> With some having 4 some having 5 it's also harder sorting and then >>> viewing similar towns over time periods. >>> >>> thanks, >>> john magyari >>> >>> >>> >>> Legacy User Group guidelines: >>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >>> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >>> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) >>> and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >>> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >>> >>> >>> >>> Legacy User Group guidelines: >>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >>> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >>> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) >>> and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >>> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >>> >>> >>> >>> Legacy User Group guidelines: >>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >>> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >>> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) >>> and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >>> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >> our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> >> >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >> our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> >> > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on > our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
