Based on Jerry comments, I can see now that if one uses X positions for all entered locations, than sorting works right to left left to right any position order for sorting After converting all to X positions exporting to other programs is working better for me as well.
because i previous had some locations with one, two, four and five positions when sorting I was very limited when looking for similar information. Now with all entries converted to X positions all sorting works as I was hoping for. Thanks for everyone's comments. john On 3/11/2012 5:08 PM, Jerry wrote: > Sorry, I stated STATES and PROVINCES, but the provinces will be in their > own list when clicking on CANADA, since they have PROVINCES and the > United States does not. Jerry > > On 03/11/2012 07:56 PM, Jerry wrote: >> Hi again Mary. I think you are misunderstanding the whole sorting >> system in terms of how most websites do the sorting. It is not simply a >> matter of whether you go from the left to right or right to left, it is >> how the sorting schemes deal with each division. If you want to see >> where I'm coming from, I welcome you to go to our website at >> http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org (enter FullGuest as username and >> merriam as password). Then go to the Places menu where you will that >> when you click on COUNTRY, then you next can see all the STATES and >> PROVINCES together in a list, then drill down to COUNTIES, and then to >> CITIES. This is the way most websites are set up to do sorting and you >> can't do that without regard to how many divisions you use. I hope you >> will go take a look and then I think you will know exactly where I'm >> coming from, even if you don't think it is necessary. >> >> Regards, >> Jerry Boor - http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org >> >> On 03/11/2012 07:31 PM, M. Brenzel wrote: >>> It doesn't matter how many fields you have in your locations. Sorting >>> right to left puts the largest entity first, whatever that may be. >>> >>> I believe that your location examples below somehow got messed up in your >>> message. You have multiple occurrences of Michigan and United States in >>> your locations. >>> >>> Sorting what I believe you have below from right to left would be as >>> follows: >>> >>> England, London, 195 Sunset Blvd., Roosevelt Cemetery >>> United States, Michigan, Detroit >>> United States, Michigan, Wayne County, Detroit >>> United States, Michigan, Wayne County, Detroit, 123 Apple Street >>> >>> I don't know why you would have Detroit listed twice, once with Wayne >>> County and once without it. >>> >>> But sorting this way, all of the locations in Detroit, Wayne County, >>> Michigan, United States (with or without street numbers and names, cemetery >>> names, or anything else) will appear together in the Location List. >>> >>> It's really a very easy concept. Try it! You might like it! You can >>> always change it back if you don't like it. Keep in mind, this sorting is >>> just for the display of the Master Location List, not how the locations are >>> displayed in context. >>> >>> Mary >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Jerry [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 5:57 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to document Locations in Europe 5 Fields vs 4 >>> Fields >>> >>> I'm trying to understand that thinking, Mary. But how could that work if, >>> for example, you had the following? >>> >>> Detroit, Michigan, United States >>> Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan, United States Michigan, United States >>> 123 Apple Street, Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan, United States Wayne >>> County, Michigan, United States Roosevelt Cemetery, 195 Sunset Blvd, >>> London, England >>> >>> You would be ok with United States and England as COUNTRIES, but then >>> moving left, it looks like you would have dissimilar entities together like: >>> >>> SECOND DIVISION FROM RIGHT: >>> Michigan >>> Michigan >>> Michigan >>> Michigan >>> Michigan >>> London >>> >>> THIRD DIVISION FROM RIGHT: >>> Detroit >>> Wayne County >>> (blank) >>> Wayne County >>> Wayne County >>> 195 Sunset Blvd >>> >>> FOURTH DIVISION FROM RIGHT: >>> (blank) >>> Detroit >>> (blank) >>> Detroit >>> Roosevelt Cemetery >>> >>> FIFTH DIVISION FROM RIGHT: >>> (blank) >>> (blank) >>> (blank) >>> 123 Apple Street >>> (blank) >>> >>> So, what part of this am I not understanding, if so? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jerry Boor - http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org >>> >>> On 03/11/2012 11:56 AM, M. Brenzel wrote: >>>> If you sort your location list right to left, they will sort properly, >>>> even with different numbers of fields. >>>> >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> *From:*John Magyari [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 11, 2012 8:08 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] How to document Locations in Europe 5 Fields >>>> vs 4 Fields >>>> >>>> Thanks for everyone's ideas. >>>> Some of my Polish time periods use 4 some 5 positions >>>> >>>> I decided to force all 5 location positions into 4. Having same >>>> number of fields helps with sorting. >>>> >>>> Ideally if would be nice to specify Number of locations field >>>> MAX. >>>> Then if entered with less fields specify which fields to become null. >>>> ie. MaxPositions = 5, LessPositionOrder if less 2,3if less than >>>> MAX >>>> ie For Me for Poland city, administration, county, state, country >>>> (1,2,3,4,5) If less fields entered enter Nulls city, county, state, >>>> country (Null 1 field - admin) city, state, country (Null other 2 >>>> fields -admin, county) city, state (Null other 3 fields) state (Null >>>> other 4 fields) >>>> >>>> >>>> I will use 4 fields, and in the process converted all locations with >>>> fewer positions to 4 position system. >>>> >>>> john >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3/11/2012 4:04 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: >>>> >>>> John, >>>> >>>>  >>>> >>>> By all means use the American four field standard for American >>>> locations, but for other countries use their own formats, normally the >>>> way in which they are written. >>>> >>>>  >>>> >>>> Ron Ferguson >>>> >>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/ >>>> >>>>  >>>> >>>>  >>>> >>>> *From:*John Magyari<mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >>>> *Sent:*Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:35 PM >>>> >>>> *To:*[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >>>> *Subject:*[LegacyUG] How to document Locations in Europe 5 Fields vs 4 >>>> Fields >>>> >>>>  >>>> >>>> Typically for US locations i have ****4 FIELDS City, County, State, >>>> Country >>>> >>>> How do others handle European Countries? >>>> >>>> For example I have a village in Poland Area >>>> >>>> 1900's part of Austria Hungary >>>> >>>> Village, District, Province, Country ****4 FIELDS Lipowiec, Sanok >>>> District, Galicia Province, Austria-Hungary >>>> >>>> Same place in 1940's ****4 FIELDS >>>> Lipowiec, Sanok District, Krosno Voivodeship, Poland >>>> >>>> Almost all places in Current Day Poland 1950's through today *****5 >>>> FIELDS City, Gmina, County, Voivodeship, COUNTRY Lipowiec, Dukla >>>> Gmina, Krosno County<wlmailhtml://wiki/Krosno_County>, >>>> Subcarpathian Voivodeship >>>> <wlmailhtml://wiki/Subcarpathian_Voivodeship>, >>>> Poland >>>> >>>> and since 2012 *****5 Fields >>>> Lipowiec, Jasliska Gmina, Krosno County >>>> <wlmailhtml://wiki/Krosno_County>, Subcarpathian Voivodeship >>>> <wlmailhtml://wiki/Subcarpathian_Voivodeship>, Poland >>>> >>>> When some locations ideally be 5 FIELDS, do you go back and update >>>> those with 4 Fields? >>>> >>>> With some having 4 some having 5 it's also harder sorting and then >>>> viewing similar towns over time periods. >>>> >>>> thanks, >>>> john magyari >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Legacy User Group guidelines: >>>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >>>> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> Archived messages from old mail server - 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