Peggy, Do not believe everything you read or see! Irish counties are *always* preceded by "County", and it is improper to write them otherwise. "County Down" correct "Down" wrong. As has been said before nomenclature varies from country to country.
I'm sorry to see that you are so hung up on the American 4 field convention. Legacy has the facility for 9 location fields. The Geolocator only looks at the first 4, so you can have what you like in the other 5 without affecting anything. Take a look at View>Master List>Location>Sort. If you also look at the Help File on the Location Page you will find answers to all your questions (or at least most of them!). Note that the Help Files on all pages are context helps, and specifically relate to the page which you are looking at. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: Marg Strong Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 6:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census I like the idea of having a "standard" approach, Paula. I may not need it now, but if later I do need it I won't have to go through and change everything. For the United States (I like spelling the Countries out) there are four fields, so I have to figure out the best way to keep the township. I think I'd rather have the town/city in my location list for sure, if there is one. But I really want to keep both. So far no one has said that putting the township in parenthesis will cause a problem later, so I hope that keeps it to the standard. When I finish cleaning up my location list, I'll start adding the commas where appropriate. That obviously doesn't work for many countries. Hopefully Legacy will find a way to deal with that down the road. I'm not sure that it always works with Canada, where right now most of my people are located. Canada seems more confusing, but maybe that's because I haven't worked as much with the United States. As far as I understand it (which may be flawed still) the census place is entered into the source, not the location, so that shouldn't cause confusion in the location list. Another thing I noticed when watching a video preview, the word "County" is left off. That would be confusing if it didn't land in the standard field. Ireland is going to be something I'll have to learn to do next. Often there is a listing for say: "County Down." I like the look of that. But it isn't in all the records. And as far as I can see from the few records I have from Irish sources, it probably won't fit the four field standard. I just started watching some of the beginner's set of videos, deciding it's worth taking the time now so I have a better idea what I'm doing. :) From: Paula Ryburn <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census Marg, As I reread what I typed, I realized I should say that towns and cities DO geographically fall into townships (at least in public land states, I think), but I believe they are incorporated and typically treated separately for census purposes, as well as (say) utilities in real life. So, I tend to have *either* the town *or* the township (for rural locations). If we're talking about other than census data, I often have *neither* so I enter just the county and state at the location. (I am still undecided on including "United States" in my locations---I haven't thought yet about publishing, so the whole international viewership question has not arisen.) --Paula From: Paula Ryburn <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, April 25, 2012 11:54:36 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census Marg, Please post an example of an actual instance about which you have this question. I don't see how you could "lose" the town/city (see red below), so we must not be talking about the same thing. (and remember to Cut or "snip" the footers from the bottom of the email when you Reply... they build up over time... thx) --Paula From: Marg Strong <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, April 25, 2012 11:36:35 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census If you don't want to lose the name of the town/city, would you use it in the Residence Event? Or in the place to put addresses? Thanks for the reply! From: Paula Ryburn <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census Marg, Yes, I enter the township instead of the town/city in a location name. Township is a breakdown of county but outside of a town or city. I don't think I've seen them both on the same census page. Also, "the location where they lived" should be the same as the location for which the census was taken, at least at the state/county/township level. The enumeration districts changed from census to census (or at least could change), so they should not be part of a location name. Rather, there is a place in the census source template to enter the enumeration district. After all, it is just part of the "path" for someone to follow to find this source you are citing themselves. --Paula From: Marg Strong <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, April 25, 2012 10:47:03 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census Do others want to enter the township into the location? There isn't a problem if the location doesn't have a town and a township, but when that happens, how do you list the township if you want to keep to the standard location form for countries where it works. I've been adding it after the town (in parenthesis). Is that not a good idea? Just to run something else by you: I think I have it right, but would like confirmation. When the census is entered as an event for an individual; or info from that census entered, I'm thinking the location where they lived during the census would be used. The census location includes district and sometimes counties don't coincide with districts (more what I've heard than personal knowledge). That would be noted in the source and not a location field? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
