I started today to look more at the help files. In fact I have a question that I don't have time to ask, so will ask later, because the help file (concerning locations) that I just looked at directs me to an option that isn't there.
It seemed that I could stick to the standard four just for the USA and use something else (after I understand better what works) for other countries. I haven't been looking at the Geo locator because it didn't seem to help much when I tried it a few days ago. Ron, do you mean, if I use more than the four fields, I can still sort by the county, country, etc? I will look at the "sort" feature and try it for myself, but unfortunately a lot of locations came in from ancestry in a way that will probably mess it up. It's my gedcom from my tree on ancestry.com that I imported into a file in legacy and am trying to work with. And I haven't even started to check the history of the places to see if the location is correct for the time. I could maybe tag a few files that are correct, try edit a few to five fields (putting township in one) and see what happens. (If I can sort just the tagged fields.) The problem is there are so many new things to learn and I hardly know where to start. As I mentioned in another email, if tech support can help me get the video set working, that I bought some time ago , I will watch them before I go any further and hopefully have a better idea of what I'm doing. I'm glad County Down is correct. I'd hate to lose the sound/look of that! It has an Irish flavor. Peggy >________________________________ > From: Ron Ferguson <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 5:35 PM >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census > > >Peggy, > >Do not believe everything you read or see! Irish counties are *always* >preceded by "County", and it is improper to write them otherwise. "County >Down" correct "Down" wrong. As has been said before nomenclature varies from >country to country. > >I'm sorry to see that you are so hung up on the American 4 field convention. >Legacy has the facility for 9 location fields. The Geolocator only looks at >the first 4, so you can have what you like in the other 5 without affecting >anything. Take a look at View>Master List>Location>Sort. If you also look at >the Help File on the Location Page you will find answers to all your >questions (or at least most of them!). > >Note that the Help Files on all pages are context helps, and specifically >relate to the page which you are looking at. > >Ron Ferguson >http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > > >From: Marg Strong >Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 6:39 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census > >I like the idea of having a "standard" approach, Paula. I may not need it >now, but if later I do need it I won't have to go through and change >everything. > > > >For the United States (I like spelling the Countries out) there are four >fields, so I have to figure out the best way to keep the township. I think >I'd rather have the town/city in my location list for sure, if there is one. >But I really want to keep both. So far no one has said that putting the >township in parenthesis will cause a problem later, so I hope that keeps it >to the standard. When I finish cleaning up my location list, I'll start >adding the commas where appropriate. That obviously doesn't work for many >countries. Hopefully Legacy will find a way to deal with that down the road. >I'm not sure that it always works with Canada, where right now most of my >people are located. Canada seems more confusing, but maybe that's because I >haven't worked as much with the United States. > > >As far as I understand it (which may be flawed still) the census place is >entered into the source, not the location, so that shouldn't cause confusion >in the location list. > > > >Another thing I noticed when watching a video preview, the word "County" is >left off. That would be confusing if it didn't land in the standard field. >Ireland is going to be something I'll have to learn to do next. Often there >is a listing for say: "County Down." I like the look of that. But it isn't >in all the records. And as far as I can see from the few records I have from >Irish sources, it probably won't fit the four field standard. > > > >I just started watching some of the beginner's set of videos, deciding it's >worth taking the time now so I have a better idea what I'm doing. :) > > > >From: Paula Ryburn <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 1:03 PM >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census > > > >Marg, >As I reread what I typed, I realized I should say that towns and cities DO >geographically fall into townships (at least in public land states, I >think), but I believe they are incorporated and typically treated separately >for census purposes, as well as (say) utilities in real life. So, I tend to >have *either* the town *or* the township (for rural locations). > >If we're talking about other than census data, I often have *neither* so I >enter just the county and state at the location. (I am still undecided on >including "United States" in my locations---I haven't thought yet about >publishing, so the whole international viewership question has not arisen.) > >--Paula > > >From: Paula Ryburn <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Wed, April 25, 2012 11:54:36 AM >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census > > > >Marg, Please post an example of an actual instance about which you have >this question. I don't see how you could "lose" the town/city (see red >below), so we must not be talking about the same thing. > >(and remember to Cut or "snip" the footers from the bottom of the email when >you Reply... they build up over time... thx) > >--Paula > > >From: Marg Strong <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Wed, April 25, 2012 11:36:35 AM >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census > > >If you don't want to lose the name of the town/city, would you use it in the >Residence Event? Or in the place to put addresses? >Thanks for the reply! > > >From: Paula Ryburn <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 12:00 PM >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census > > > >Marg, >Yes, I enter the township instead of the town/city in a location name. >Township is a breakdown of county but outside of a town or city. I don't >think I've seen them both on the same census page. > > >Also, "the location where they lived" should be the same as the location for >which the census was taken, at least at the state/county/township level. > > >The enumeration districts changed from census to census (or at least could >change), so they should not be part of a location name. Rather, there is a >place in the census source template to enter the enumeration district. >After all, it is just part of the "path" for someone to follow to find this >source you are citing themselves. > >--Paula > > >From: Marg Strong <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Wed, April 25, 2012 10:47:03 AM >Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Locations - Townships; census > > >Do others want to enter the township into the location? There isn't a >problem if the location doesn't have a town and a township, but when that >happens, how do you list the township if you want to keep to the standard >location form for countries where it works. I've been adding it after the >town (in parenthesis). Is that not a good idea? > >Just to run something else by you: I think I have it right, but would like >confirmation. When the census is entered as an event for an individual; or >info from that census entered, I'm thinking the location where they lived >during the census would be used. >The census location includes district and sometimes counties don't coincide >with districts (more what I've heard than personal knowledge). 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