Excellent point, Paula. John
John Zimmerman Mesa, AZ On 10/15/2012 11:34 AM, Paula Ryburn wrote: > Remember, though, the nightmare you will cause yourself in > relinking files to Legacy if you use a bulk renaming > utility outside Legacy. > Support recommends renaming photo files in the Picture Center. > There is no short-cut, though, for files linked to > sources/citations. > --Paula > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* hwedhlor <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Mon, October 15, 2012 1:04:13 AM > *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical > files after death of compi ler > > Windows will allow spaces, as well as a host of symbols in > file names, and it's true that you can use programs to > search and replace spaces (and other characters). I'm > partial to one called The Rename, by Herve Thouzard. Having > said that I find the underscore to provide the visual > separation necessary to make file names both readable, and > useable in both Windows and on a website under HTML or XML. > By using the underscore between components in my file names > I feel that I get the best of both worlds and won't have to > make changes at a later date. > > John Zimmerman > Mesa, AZ > > On 10/14/2012 5:33 PM, JLB wrote: > > I have thousands of file names with spaces in them > because I like the > > look of it better. IF I should ever decide to put them > online, a free > > program called Bulk Rename Utility can change the names > of files (i.e. > > add hyphens or underscores) in a matter of minutes to > tens of thousands > > of files at once, so don't be paranoid on this issue. > > -- > > JL Beeken > > JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists > > http://www.jgen.ws/jlog/ > > > > On 10/14/2012 5:16 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote: > >> Bob, > >> > >> Just a quick piece of advice for those who may at some > time consider creating a website - do not have spaces in > your file names, use an underscore or hyphen instead, > otherwise they may well not work. > >> > >> In fact it is best only to use alpha-numeric characters > in addition to the above two. > >> Ron Ferguson > >> http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > >> GOONS #5307 > >> > >> > >> "Robert Austen"<[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Ellen, > >>> > >>> Regarding photos... please remember that the RIN# only > means something if the person looking at it has YOUR > Legacy file - even then the number can be changed. You > also need your Legacy file, and the Legacy program, to > look up the number. This applies to MRIN #'s as well. > Have a look at John Zimmerman's recent posts about naming > - well presented and good food for thought. I file photos > by birth name - "last name, given names, dates - other > info" such as "Adams, Marjorie Alice 1896-1962 - Birth > Certificate" Anyone can find their way through my file > without a program or an index. I also make good use of > the IPTC info section embedded in digital photos for > additional info. > >>> > >>> Congratulations on the work you are doing. I am the > unofficial 'keeper of the tree' in my family. I have a > couple boxes of poorly organized documents however, > everything has been scanned and everything is kept > digitally in my file and reasonably well organized. I > also am aware that the DVD's that my data is stored on > will one day be obsolete and the data could be lost. Most > of my family is fairly interested in some of the > information but not genealogy per se. My wife had a great > system of filling paper documents but had over seventy 4" > binders with about 1500 family members. I know my small > local public library would NOT be interested in them even > though we have a great genealogy section (about one half > of one floor). I have close to 30,000 family members in > my file, 18,000 items in my picture file, and 26,000 in my > document file. How does one do a paper system for that? > I would need the whole library to store my data on paper! > >>> > >>> A few years ago we had a 'family reunion' with about > 20 members. My (limited, at that time) genealogy info and > charts were a great hit. I had also asked most to give me > a short story, or testimonial, about themselves and many > responded - some at great length. I think it's time to > send the request out again! > >>> > >>> Keep up the good work. Regardless of where mine ends > up it is a fascinating hobby and I have been blessed by > all the people I have met along the way. > >>> > >>> Bob > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Ellen [mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>] > >>> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 10:42 AM > >>> To: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical > files after death of compi ler > >>> > >>> Regarding photos AND what to do with files after death > of compiler. > >>> > >>> Regarding photos, we have too many people of the same > name so I use the RIN # in the name of the photo. > >>> > >>> Regarding genealogy files, our one side of the family > has a duly elected Family Historian along with other > officers for the Reunion Committee. When the last Family > Historian was dying of cancer, she quietly had a relative > help her to bring boxes and boxes of info to local > genealogical and historical societies. She didn't like > genealogy software but wanted everything in Microsoft Word > using the family's old numbering system. We have > corrected so many mistakes that now that numbering system > is obsolete and irrelevant since it was based upon birth > order, some of which were very wrong. > >>> > >>> However, she also had 17 boxes of uncomputerized, > unsorted, unfiled, unorganized mess leftover. Her > grandson gave it to the President of the Family Reunion > Committee. I was elected the new Family Historian and > have been influencing and connecting with others in the > family who use Legacy. Those switching over to Legacy are > amazed. My predecessor never "worked with people." She > felt threatened by others. However, my first step was > reaching out to others and forming a committee which is > working on finalizing a book after my being elected in > August of 2009. I still have about 12-13 boxes to go > through, but we have compiled all the prior published > research into the computer, worked on LOTS and LOTS of > corrections of info, run Potential Problems Reports as > well, and solicited updates from everyone possible with a > promise of a free print out of their grandparents on > down. Next year is the 280th anniversary of our first > male immigrant's arrival in the colonies, and we exp > > ect to have the book ready just 4 years after being > elected. Hopefully we can have much more of the articles > and things scanned and in the next book in 2020. Forty > years is way to long for people to wait for a book with > the last 15 years having someone in charge who doesn't > even own a computer. > >>> Our Family Reunion is actually a genealogy fest. LOTS > of very distant relatives have been working on research so > we know no dearth of interest. We even have a few minutes > of storytelling by the Family Historian as well as a > report of the deaths/births/marriages since the prior > year. With so many sad stories, I thought it would be > great to tell one fairly good story. We will have to > check out what was given away, but I have plenty to keep > me busy for a long time even without whatever she gave away. > >>> > >>> God bless, > >>> Ellen > >>> > >>> On Oct 14, 2012, at 1:47 AM, hwedhlor wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi Ron, > >>>> > >>>> That's a fair comment, and one with which I > completely agree. I > >>>> should have ask those requesting copies to contact me > offlist, and > >>>> would have done so if I expected such a large > response. My apologies > >>>> to the list. > >>>> > >>>> Anyone requesting copies of my file naming documents > please contact me > >>>> offlist. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> John Zimmerman > >>>> Mesa, AZ > >>>> > >>>> On 10/13/2012 10:18 AM, Ron Bernier wrote: > >>>>> Could all of these "Me too" posts please be taken > off line. Rather > >>>>> than clog up the list with non Legacy "me too" > posts, it would be > >>>>> much more considerate of other Legacy subscribers if > folks were to > >>>>> contact the original poster via his personal email > address. > >>>>> > >>>>> Ron Bernier > >>>>> Woonsocket, RI > >>>>> > >>>>> On Saturday, October 13, 2012, Lee Bruch wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I too would be interested in receiving copies. > >>>>> Thanks > >>>>> Lee Bruch > >>>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: hwedhlor [mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]><javascript:;>] > >>>>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 11:56 PM > >>>>> To: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with > genealogical > >>>>> files after death of compi ler > >>>>> > >>>>> JLB and Robert Austen, > >>>>> > >>>>> Thank you both for your kind remarks. > >>>>> > >>>>> On the further subject of archiving images in > Legacy > >>>>> and elsewhere, > >>>>> > >>>>> <snip> > >>>>> > >>>>> If anyone is interested I will be happy to send > them a > >>>>> five-page rationale and a one-page quick reference > >>>>> sheet, both in MS Word format, or to publish that > >>>>> rationale here if there is sufficient demand. > >>>>> > >>>>> John Zimmerman > >>>>> Mesa, AZ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Ron Bernier > >>>>> Woonsocket, RI > >>>>> > >> Legacy User Group guidelines: > >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > >> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 > 2009: > >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >> Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > >> Follow Legacy on Facebook > (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog > (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > >> To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- > >> No virus found in this message. > >> Checked by AVG -www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > >> Version: 2013.0.2740 / Virus Database: 2601/5829 - > Release Date: 10/13/12 > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 > 2009: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > Follow Legacy on Facebook > (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog > (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook > (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog > (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook > (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog > (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). 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