Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Installation - GLBF797.tmp

[John B. Lisle]

Glenn,

1/ I call the folder Program Files generically knowing that in Win XP, that is what it is called.

2/ The key is to do a separation of program and data. The dozens of settings-type files in My Documents are really an extension of the program. However, inter-mixed with those files are actually some files that are yours.

EG, the GeoCodeXXX-alt.txt files for configuring the GeoDB, the dictionary files, the UnknownName.txt file, any settings file or color scheme file that you have saved, etc.

These are important for your operation of Legacy, but they are not part of your family history data.

3/ Since you already have, because of your SSD drive, a separate data partition, I suspect that at sometime you did a folder move to place My Documents, etc. on your D drive. Correct? I would just leave it there

4/ Were I in your position, I would just create a top level folder on your D drive with my family history data. I do not see a need to create a separate E partition. And set option 6.1 to that folder.

john.

At 11:44 AM 12/16/2013, Glenn Woodman wrote:

John,

All I can say is 'Wow!'  You have a very complex operation going with all your family files.  Thank you very much for the time you have taken to share with me your strategy for Legacy folders.  In my case, I have a SSD (labeled C:) where by default the Win7 OS and all program files are stored.  All data files are then stored by default on the usual "rotating" disk drive (labeled D:).  Legacy 8 is stored on the C: drive in a folder named "Program Files (x86)".  I understand this folder is for 32-bit systems, which is what Legacy is. You have provided valuable information about the Legacy Family Tree folder being hard-coded to being located under My Documents, which is on my D: drive.  In order to follow your strategy, I suppose I could partition my D: drive to create an E: drive, and then move the entire My Documents folder there.

Regards,

Glenn Woodman


On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 10:14 AM, John B. Lisle <leg...@tqsi.com> wrote:

Glenn,

Let me share my strategy for Legacy folders. Maybe it will give you ideas about what you want to do.

The best - and ONLY in my perspective - place to install Legacy is in your Windows Program Files folder. What goes in there are all of the static files that will not change during program execution. In some cases, you have the default files that you use to restore defaults.

Then there is a series of Legacy program data files. These are files that Legacy does use during the execution of the program. This is where your settings files are saved. These files are "hard-coded" to go in your My Documents folder. You have no choice. HOWEVER, you can use Windows to move your whole My Documents folder to a different location; eg, to another partition on your hard drive. I have done that as I have partitioned my hard drive into a C and D partition and I have my Carbonite Cloud backup my whole D drive constantly.

Your My Documents\Legacy Family Tree folder does contains a Data and a Media folder which are the defaults for where you store your data.

I prefer to have a top level folder on my D drive as the location where all of my 50 or so Family Files are organized. I name it something like "Legacy Family Files". I set Option 6.1 to this folder. Then I can easily navigate from one FF to the next.

--> The structure I am about to describe is optimized because I work with so many FFs AND because I use TNG to web publish so I want to organize the media for easy upload to TNG.

Within that folder, I have a series of folders for each of the family files I work with. Within each of those folders, I have sub-folder for gedcoms, backups, reports, charts, media, etc. Then within the media I have sub-folders photos, documents, headstones, histories, etc. to correspond to TNGs media organization. You can set Option 6.2 for each Family file to the corresponding top level media folder that family uses.

The strategy is based on separating program, program data, and personal data. It works for me, but it might not work for anyone else.

ok?

john.

At 12:05 PM 12/15/2013, Glenn Woodman wrote:

Hi John,

Thanks again for additional info.  You replied:

"The program is by default installed in Program Files (X86). Sorry if I caused any confusion. The Program data that Legacy changes during its operation is in My Documents. You can move - and I recommend it - the location of your family files and media to another folder anywhere on your computer."

Interesting.  Where do you suggest putting the location of family and media files?  From the beginning I was sure if I liked having those files stored under the Documents folder.  With all previous versions, I rather liked having these files stored under the Legacy folder.  There could be reasons for not doing that, I don't know.  If so, would you recommend just moving the entire Legacy Family Tree folder and associated subfolders out of Documents and under the root directory?

Glenn Woodman

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 10:16 PM, John B. Lisle <leg...@tqsi.com> wrote:

Glenn,

You are quite welcome.

1/ I am of the school that you should keep L7.5 around for a while. Not because I think L8 is broken, but you may find that you may need it to confirm/verify some bugs and, in case there are fies in that folder you decide later you need to move over.

One person I have been helping offline needed to go back and look at a backup to confirm that what they thought was a bug in L8 was actually a bug in their data that they made long before they knew L8 was going to be released.

2/ The program is by default installed in Program Files (X86). Sorry if I caused any confusion. The Program data that Legacy changes during its operation is in My Documents. You can move - and I recommend it - the location of your family files and media to another folder anywhere on your computer.

ok?

john.

At 09:20 PM 12/3/2013, Glenn Woodman wrote:

John,

Thank you for the info.  I now see that Legaccy 8 is indeed installed in Program Files.  I'm curious abouut one thing.  I have a SSD where all application files are stored by default on the C: drive, and data files are stored on a regular drive labeled D:.  On the C: drive is Legacy 7.5 in itss own folder in the root directory.  I am running Win7.

Questions:

1) Should I / is it safe to uninstall this using Windows Add/Remove?

2) I have two Program Files folders on my C: drivee.  One named Program Files, the other named Program Files (x86).šÂ  Legacy 8 is installed in the latter.  Is this the way itt is supposed to be?  The folder Legacy Family Tree is indeed locaated under My Documents, which resided on my D: drive.

Glenn Woodman

On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 10:58 AM, John B. Lisle <leg...@tqsi.com> wrote:

Glenn,

One of the changes in Legacy 8 is to install by default into Program Files to comply with Microsoft standards. Prior to L8, the install directory included files that Legacy edited during program execution. Now, those files show up in the user's My Documents folder.

The Avast problem does not block the proper installation. It just causes - in Win 7, at least - messages that seem that there is a problem. I wrote a long message on this earlier.

john.

At 10:31 AM 12/1/2013, Glenn Woodman wrote:

Bill Boswell,

Regarding conflicts with AV software and installing Legacy (as well as other downloaded programs), I share the experiences of you and others using Norton.  Before Nortonton, the freebie AV softtware I used had a check box for disabling protection.҂šÃ‚  That allowed owed the target software to "come through the door" with no interruption.  After successessful installation, I jjust re-enabled protection.  Perherhaps those who use Avast might exxplore if that program has a similar feature.

My question to you is about your comment that you "don't let the installation put it [Legacy] in the Program Files."šÃ‚  I I am curious about this, as it is my understanding that by default Legacy installs in the root directory. Does it҂ want nt to install in Program Files in your case?  I've never understoodd why, and don t know the pros or cons of installing it in one place or the other.  I've neverver questioned it, as I figured the developers had their particular reasons for setting it up that way.  But t I am somewhat cuurious.

Glenn Woodman

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:09 AM, William Boswell <whbosw...@gmail.com> wrote:

Same here.  I've useused Norton AV products for years (currently Norton 360) and had no problems with Legacy 7.5 or with the new 8.0.  No problems with ih installation or use.

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I stay away from the freebie AV programs.  Syymantec who produces the Norton programs is a reputable company.

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When I installed Legacy 8 Deluxe this morning, I didn't let the installation put it in Program Files.‚  I put it iin the root directory of my C drive like I did with Legacy 7.5.šÃ‚‚  I also o have Windows 7's User Account Control turned off which can interfere with a lot of programs.

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Installation - GLBF797.tmp

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I've used Norton's since day one on the internet and never have any problems downloading reputable programs like Legacy.šÃ‚‚  Just t downloaded Legacy 8 and again it went smooth as butter.

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On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:00 AM, John B. Lisle <leg...@tqsi.com> wrote:

Gene,

Are you using the Free Avast AV or the Avast Internet Security? I

believe the problem is with the Internet Security version only. Some

of the secondary Windows issues are only appearing with Win 7 and above.

john.

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