In many ways what you say is correct. It is almost pointless making a costly 
change that will only benefit a small number of existing users. But the issues 
raised are not, in the long term, in that category.

-          “not married and had no children” will become a growing issue with 
today’s means of creating children and forming relationships – not least 
children with 3 biological parents

-          Same sex marriage is now legal in many places and will increase in 
prevalence.



The main point is the first of these, as the business process within the 
software appears to be driven by the programmers who are using a technical, 
rather than real world, decision. They have looked at the software requirement 
and realised that “biologically” each person has two parents. Traditionally 
this meant there was a marriage – even though there are so many examples, even 
in the Victorian era, of people ignoring these conventions.



What is needed is for the business (i.e. those responsible for the customer 
needs) to look at whether this model is still relevant. If not they need to 
specify what the model should be. The programmers will then have to adjust the 
database structure to satisfy the business need. This may well mean that the 
“parents” of a child is a list of people and that this might include a 
“married” couple, but not necessarily.



Until Legacy accepts that there is a need to recognise 21C definitions of 
family, marriage, parenting etc, then there is little point in objecting to the 
existing structure. The database design is clearly so indelibly entwined with 
the definition of family that it isn’t possible to “tinker” with the system.



Jack



From: gerald [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 09 April 2015 20:24
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Chasing the market [was: Any Way to Mark a PERSON ...]



It may appear, John, that what you would like to see in a program is very 
logical to you, but the number of other users that feel the same can be counted 
on one hand. It is just not worth the time and effort to make those changes for 
only a few. I know from personal experience in writiing a simple program that 
one little "correction" involves re-writing the entire code for the program, 
and I have to ask myself "is it worth all this bother?" just for this little 
change before doing anything at all.



A better idea is simply to make the changes yourself. I find that I often have 
to make it myself for anything to be the way I want it. So write your own 
program that does exactly what you want. Then it will always be perfect. Very 
logical way to go, I think. Don't wait for others to do it for you -- do it 
yourself.



Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 at 12:18 AM
From: "John Lisle" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Chasing the market [was: Any Way to Mark a PERSON ...]

Jay,

Your (and my?) idea of what the market requires may be different from what 
Legacy's management feels is necessary.
What you and I whine about most often are the small 10 cent changes that could 
make our lives easier as we go about our business.

I would like to see an L8.1 that picks up a number of these changes.

john.




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