James, I understand where you're coming from. I just think that handling data in a manner that deviates from the standard is inviting data integrity issues. As I said, the choice is yours. Just be aware of the lasting issues it will cause for those who come after.
Christopher On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 4:59 AM James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup < legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> wrote: > Exactly my point. Putting historical location in the notes maintains all > the information one needs and still be sensible and useful to family > members. If people import information without looking at the notes, then > they are not being a good genealogist. It tells me that they just copy > things for numbers, not for reliable and useful information to share. > > Hoosierly yours, > > James G. Hermsen > 8108 Laura Lynne Lane > Indianapolis, IN 46217 > > 317-679-1466 cell > 317-881-4600 land line > > > On Friday, August 02, 2019 08:51:50 AM EDT, Bill Hoff < > bh...@mchsi.com> wrote: > > > Then one cannot find on a map if historic locations used. With many > relatives in West Virginia I have this problem. WV did not become a state > until June 20, 1863. On top of that many counties within the state were > divided over many years, far too many for me to recall them all. Then there > is the problem of knowing locations but not dates so one cannot be certain > of entries > Bill > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 1, 2019, at 8:15 PM, Christopher Seward Sr. <csewar...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > You are free to record as you choose, but keep in mind that if you publish > & share this information, your method goes against the standard, and can > cause issues. > > An example for me was importing a person's info into my file. I kept > getting import errors stating the the location (birth place) did not exist > on that date (birth date). Now I have an issue, since this place not only > didn't exist when this person was born, but when it did exist, it was in a > different country than when he was born, thus making him appear to be of > one heritage, but was actually another. > > I recommend ALWAYS putting the correct location in, and putting the > current name of the location in the notes. > On 8/1/2019 4:41 PM, James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup wrote: > > Yes, but in the notes. Most people I share my information with want to > know where the place is now. They, like Trump, have no regard for history, > and those who know their history, already know what the original name is. > Looking for documents, the current place will know what jurisdiction they > once were governed by. It is all about being usable for current people. > Otherwise, we would all be recording everying in Latin like they once did. > > Hoosierly yours, > > James G. Hermsen > 8108 Laura Lynne Lane > Indianapolis, IN 46217 > > 317-679-1466 cell > 317-881-4600 land line > > > On Thursday, August 01, 2019 01:22:29 PM EDT, > sarrazingeor...@gmail.com <sarrazingeor...@gmail.com> > <sarrazingeor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I think one should always the name of a location the way it is indicated > in the documentation. > > If the name has change or if two locations have been merge, I use curly > brackets with the new name after the old name. > > Ex. Romorantin {Romorantin-Lanthenay}, 41194, Loir-et-Cher, Centre-Val de > Loire, France > > (Note : I use 5 fields) > > > > Georges > > > > *De :* LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> *De la part de* James G. > Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup > *Envoyé :* 1 août 2019 09:26 > *À :* mvmcgrs--- via LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> > <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> > *Cc :* James G. Hermsen <jherm...@yahoo.com> <jherm...@yahoo.com> > *Objet :* Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania > > > > I always use the current geographic location and name today in each entry > and in the notes, remark that the geographic name and country was different > then than it is today. That way when a grandchild (or anyone) wants to > find the place on a map is able to do so. Prussia is very hard to find, if > you did not know where to look. Same thing with names of cities whose name > has changed. Stalingrad, Linengrad don't make sense for someone born after > the Cold War. Peking vs. Bejing. Same thing. > > > > Hoosierly yours, > > > > James G. Hermsen > > 8108 Laura Lynne Lane > > Indianapolis, IN 46217 > > > > 317-679-1466 cell > > 317-881-4600 land line > > > > > > On Thursday, August 01, 2019 08:43:54 AM EDT, mvmcgrs--- > via LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I hope you are not inserting the the added information if it is not in the > document. The jurisdictions change over time. In the US what was a county > in 1850 may be another county in 1860 and still another county by 1870. The > house did not move but the boundaries did. > > > > Marie > > Marie Varrelman Melchiori, Certified Genealogist Emeritus > ______________________________ ______________________________ __ > CG or Certified Genealogist is a service mark of the Board for > Certification of Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified > genealogists after periodic competency evaluation, and the board name is > registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office. > > In a message dated 8/1/2019 6:24:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, > wrlinh...@gmail.com writes: > > > > I do agree. > > > > My standard is: [1. local jurisdiction/repository i.e.township, village, > city, etc], 2.County, 3.State, 4.Country > > and apply to other countries similarly by always using three commas for > all locations [usually each has a repository of genealogical data] . The > entry might between comma's might be null if I don't have the information. > For example born in USA might be ", , , USA". I know I have some research > to do but I only record what I have from that source. > > > > For folder hierarchy and some naming situations I reverse the order but > always hold to 4 elements for location. I don't believe I have ever had an > exception. I am sure I will learn about one here. So far this works for > me. > > > > Bill > > > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:20 AM Roberta Schwalm <robertaschw...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I do the same thing, Shirley. Most of my ancestors are from Scotland, > Ireland, England, Germany and a spattering of French. The only difference > is I use "province" instead of State. > > > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 9:05 PM Shirley Crampton <scshenders...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I use Village, County, State, Country. Hopefully there is no more than 1 > village of the same name in the County. If the place is rural then I put > the name of the township in the first position. > > > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 5:47 PM Connie Laubach <bluecorab...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Trying to decide how to input the location names – I have townships that > are made up of villages and boroughs. How are others handling it? > > I have thought of the following: > > Village, township, county, state, United States > > or > > township-village, country, state, United States (I like this as all > villages within the township would be listed together) > > > > Thank you, Connie. > > > > > > > > -- > > LegacyUserGroup mailing list > LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > To manage your subscription and unsubscribe > http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com > Archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > -- > > LegacyUserGroup mailing list > LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > To manage your subscription and unsubscribe > http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com > Archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon> > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link> > <#m_882124480074161420_m_8927475439679967173_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > -- > > LegacyUserGroup mailing list > LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > To manage your subscription and unsubscribe > http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com > Archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > > -- > > LegacyUserGroup mailing list > LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > To manage your subscription and unsubscribe > http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com > Archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > -- > > LegacyUserGroup mailing list > LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > To manage your subscription and unsubscribe > http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com > Archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >
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