Actually, I use the full name for all locations. I am from Canada.
On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 9:00 PM Donna Newell <djnewel...@gmail.com> wrote: > Great answer! > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 3, 2019, at 3:50 PM, Ian Macaulay <macau...@icmac.ca> wrote: > > I Live in CA, Not California IMHO Acronyms are not proper English, and > it confuses your Neighbors. > > > On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 3:14 PM James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup < > legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> wrote: > >> I never had a Gedcom file not accept any location file whether it had >> Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN, or even Indianapolis, IN. not to mention >> Indianapolis, xxx Township, Marion County, Indiana, United States of >> America. You soon get the point that the latter is the creation of someone >> who thinks that they need to police something totally not needed by anyone >> with common sense, or a tad bit of education. >> >> Hoosierly yours, >> >> James G. Hermsen >> 8108 Laura Lynne Lane >> Indianapolis, IN 46217 >> >> 317-679-1466 cell >> 317-881-4600 land line >> >> >> On Saturday, August 03, 2019 09:43:25 AM EDT, < >> sarrazingeor...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Christopher >> >> I agree with you. >> >> My suggestion of putting the present name between curly brackets after >> the referenced location name is simply an easy way to translate old >> location name into present day name and it is accepted by the different >> Gedcom programs. >> >> >> >> Georges >> >> >> >> >> >> *De :* LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> *De la >> part de* Christopher Seward Sr >> *Envoyé :* 3 août 2019 09:21 >> *À :* Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >> *Objet :* Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania >> >> >> >> James, I understand where you're coming from. I just think that handling >> data in a manner that deviates from the standard is inviting data integrity >> issues. As I said, the choice is yours. Just be aware of the lasting >> issues it will cause for those who come after. >> >> >> >> Christopher >> >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 4:59 AM James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup < >> legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> wrote: >> >> Exactly my point. Putting historical location in the notes maintains all >> the information one needs and still be sensible and useful to family >> members. If people import information without looking at the notes, then >> they are not being a good genealogist. It tells me that they just copy >> things for numbers, not for reliable and useful information to share. >> >> >> >> Hoosierly yours, >> >> >> >> James G. Hermsen >> >> 8108 Laura Lynne Lane >> >> Indianapolis, IN 46217 >> >> >> >> 317-679-1466 cell >> >> 317-881-4600 land line >> >> >> >> >> >> On Friday, August 02, 2019 08:51:50 AM EDT, Bill Hoff < >> bh...@mchsi.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Then one cannot find on a map if historic locations used. With many >> relatives in West Virginia I have this problem. WV did not become a state >> until June 20, 1863. On top of that many counties within the state were >> divided over many years, far too many for me to recall them all. Then there >> is the problem of knowing locations but not dates so one cannot be certain >> of entries >> >> Bill >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Aug 1, 2019, at 8:15 PM, Christopher Seward Sr. <csewar...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> You are free to record as you choose, but keep in mind that if you >> publish & share this information, your method goes against the standard, >> and can cause issues. >> >> An example for me was importing a person's info into my file. I kept >> getting import errors stating the the location (birth place) did not exist >> on that date (birth date). Now I have an issue, since this place not only >> didn't exist when this person was born, but when it did exist, it was in a >> different country than when he was born, thus making him appear to be of >> one heritage, but was actually another. >> >> I recommend ALWAYS putting the correct location in, and putting the >> current name of the location in the notes. >> >> On 8/1/2019 4:41 PM, James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup wrote: >> >> Yes, but in the notes. Most people I share my information with want to >> know where the place is now. They, like Trump, have no regard for history, >> and those who know their history, already know what the original name is. >> Looking for documents, the current place will know what jurisdiction they >> once were governed by. It is all about being usable for current people. >> Otherwise, we would all be recording everying in Latin like they once did. >> >> >> >> Hoosierly yours, >> >> >> >> James G. Hermsen >> >> 8108 Laura Lynne Lane >> >> Indianapolis, IN 46217 >> >> >> >> 317-679-1466 cell >> >> 317-881-4600 land line >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thursday, August 01, 2019 01:22:29 PM EDT, >> sarrazingeor...@gmail.com <sarrazingeor...@gmail.com> >> <sarrazingeor...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> I think one should always the name of a location the way it is indicated >> in the documentation. >> >> If the name has change or if two locations have been merge, I use curly >> brackets with the new name after the old name. >> >> Ex. Romorantin {Romorantin-Lanthenay}, 41194, Loir-et-Cher, Centre-Val >> de Loire, France >> >> (Note : I use 5 fields) >> >> >> >> Georges >> >> >> >> *De :* LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> >> <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> *De la part de* James G. >> Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup >> *Envoyé :* 1 août 2019 09:26 >> *À :* mvmcgrs--- via LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >> <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >> *Cc :* James G. Hermsen <jherm...@yahoo.com> <jherm...@yahoo.com> >> *Objet :* Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania >> >> >> >> I always use the current geographic location and name today in each entry >> and in the notes, remark that the geographic name and country was different >> then than it is today. That way when a grandchild (or anyone) wants to >> find the place on a map is able to do so. Prussia is very hard to find, if >> you did not know where to look. Same thing with names of cities whose name >> has changed. Stalingrad, Linengrad don't make sense for someone born after >> the Cold War. Peking vs. Bejing. Same thing. >> >> >> >> Hoosierly yours, >> >> >> >> James G. Hermsen >> >> 8108 Laura Lynne Lane >> >> Indianapolis, IN 46217 >> >> >> >> 317-679-1466 cell >> >> 317-881-4600 land line >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thursday, August 01, 2019 08:43:54 AM EDT, mvmcgrs--- >> via LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I hope you are not inserting the the added information if it is not in >> the document. The jurisdictions change over time. In the US what was a >> county in 1850 may be another county in 1860 and still another county by >> 1870. The house did not move but the boundaries did. >> >> >> >> Marie >> >> Marie Varrelman Melchiori, Certified Genealogist Emeritus >> ______________________________ ______________________________ __ >> CG or Certified Genealogist is a service mark of the Board for >> Certification of Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified >> genealogists after periodic competency evaluation, and the board name is >> registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office. >> >> In a message dated 8/1/2019 6:24:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, >> wrlinh...@gmail.com writes: >> >> >> >> I do agree. >> >> >> >> My standard is: [1. local jurisdiction/repository i.e.township, >> village, city, etc], 2.County, 3.State, 4.Country >> >> and apply to other countries similarly by always using three commas for >> all locations [usually each has a repository of genealogical data] . The >> entry might between comma's might be null if I don't have the information. >> For example born in USA might be ", , , USA". I know I have some research >> to do but I only record what I have from that source. >> >> >> >> For folder hierarchy and some naming situations I reverse the order but >> always hold to 4 elements for location. I don't believe I have ever had an >> exception. I am sure I will learn about one here. So far this works for >> me. >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:20 AM Roberta Schwalm < >> robertaschw...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I do the same thing, Shirley. Most of my ancestors are from Scotland, >> Ireland, England, Germany and a spattering of French. The only difference >> is I use "province" instead of State. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 9:05 PM Shirley Crampton <scshenders...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> I use Village, County, State, Country. Hopefully there is no more than 1 >> village of the same name in the County. If the place is rural then I put >> the name of the township in the first position. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 5:47 PM Connie Laubach <bluecorab...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Trying to decide how to input the location names – I have townships that >> are made up of villages and boroughs. How are others handling it? >> >> I have thought of the following: >> >> Village, township, county, state, United States >> >> or >> >> township-village, country, state, United States (I like this as all >> villages within the township would be listed together) >> >> >> >> Thank you, Connie. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> LegacyUserGroup mailing list >> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com >> To manage your subscription and unsubscribe >> http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com >> Archives at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >> >> -- >> >> LegacyUserGroup mailing list >> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com >> To manage your subscription and unsubscribe >> http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com >> Archives at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> [image: >> https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif] >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon> >> >> Virus-free. www.avast.com >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link> >> >> -- >> >> LegacyUserGroup mailing list >> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com >> To manage your subscription and unsubscribe >> http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com >> Archives at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >> >> -- >> >> LegacyUserGroup mailing list >> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com >> To manage your subscription and unsubscribe >> http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com >> Archives at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >> >> -- >> >> LegacyUserGroup mailing list >> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com >> To manage your subscription and unsubscribe >> http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com >> Archives at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >> >> -- >> >> LegacyUserGroup mailing list >> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com >> To manage your subscription and unsubscribe >> http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com >> Archives at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >> -- >> >> LegacyUserGroup mailing list >> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com >> To manage your subscription and unsubscribe >> http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com >> Archives at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >> > > > -- > ICMac Sales: Hobby consultant (1986r.) > Office hours: 10:00 Am - 5:00 PM most days > Macaulay Genealogy > Family Matters > Ian Macaulay of Carp, Ontario > > -- > > LegacyUserGroup mailing list > LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > To manage your subscription and unsubscribe > http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com > Archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > > -- > > LegacyUserGroup mailing list > LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > To manage your subscription and unsubscribe > http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com > Archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >
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