Thanks for all the info & suggestions. I did not know about curley brackets
so that will be a great help.
Thank you everryone.
On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 9:43 AM <sarrazingeor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Christopher
>
> I agree with you.
>
> My suggestion of putting the present name between curly brackets after the
> referenced location name is simply an easy way to translate old location
> name into present day name and it is accepted by the different Gedcom
> programs.
>
>
>
> Georges
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>
>
>
> *De :* LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> *De la
> part de* Christopher Seward Sr
> *Envoyé :* 3 août 2019 09:21
> *À :* Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
> *Objet :* Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
>
>
>
> James, I understand where you're coming from. I just think that handling
> data in a manner that deviates from the standard is inviting data integrity
> issues. As I said, the choice is yours. Just be aware of the lasting
> issues it will cause for those who come after.
>
>
>
> Christopher
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 4:59 AM James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup <
> legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> wrote:
>
> Exactly my point. Putting historical location in the notes maintains all
> the information one needs and still be sensible and useful to family
> members. If people import information without looking at the notes, then
> they are not being a good genealogist. It tells me that they just copy
> things for numbers, not for reliable and useful information to share.
>
>
>
> Hoosierly yours,
>
>
>
> James G. Hermsen
>
> 8108 Laura Lynne Lane
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> 317-679-1466 cell
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> 317-881-4600 land line
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> On Friday, August 02, 2019 08:51:50 AM EDT, Bill Hoff <
> bh...@mchsi.com> wrote:
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>
> Then one cannot find on a map if historic locations used. With many
> relatives in West Virginia I have this problem. WV did not become a state
> until June 20, 1863. On top of that many counties within the state were
> divided over many years, far too many for me to recall them all. Then there
> is the problem of knowing locations but not dates so one cannot be certain
> of entries
>
> Bill
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Aug 1, 2019, at 8:15 PM, Christopher Seward Sr. <csewar...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> You are free to record as you choose, but keep in mind that if you publish
> & share this information, your method goes against the standard, and can
> cause issues.
>
> An example for me was importing a person's info into my file. I kept
> getting import errors stating the the location (birth place) did not exist
> on that date (birth date). Now I have an issue, since this place not only
> didn't exist when this person was born, but when it did exist, it was in a
> different country than when he was born, thus making him appear to be of
> one heritage, but was actually another.
>
> I recommend ALWAYS putting the correct location in, and putting the
> current name of the location in the notes.
>
> On 8/1/2019 4:41 PM, James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
>
> Yes, but in the notes. Most people I share my information with want to
> know where the place is now. They, like Trump, have no regard for history,
> and those who know their history, already know what the original name is.
> Looking for documents, the current place will know what jurisdiction they
> once were governed by. It is all about being usable for current people.
> Otherwise, we would all be recording everying in Latin like they once did.
>
>
>
> Hoosierly yours,
>
>
>
> James G. Hermsen
>
> 8108 Laura Lynne Lane
>
> Indianapolis, IN 46217
>
>
>
> 317-679-1466 cell
>
> 317-881-4600 land line
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, August 01, 2019 01:22:29 PM EDT,
> sarrazingeor...@gmail.com <sarrazingeor...@gmail.com>
> <sarrazingeor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I think one should always the name of a location the way it is indicated
> in the documentation.
>
> If the name has change or if two locations have been merge, I use curly
> brackets with the new name after the old name.
>
> Ex. Romorantin {Romorantin-Lanthenay}, 41194, Loir-et-Cher, Centre-Val de
> Loire, France
>
> (Note : I use 5 fields)
>
>
>
> Georges
>
>
>
> *De :* LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>
> <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> *De la part de* James G.
> Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup
> *Envoyé :* 1 août 2019 09:26
> *À :* mvmcgrs--- via LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
> <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
> *Cc :* James G. Hermsen <jherm...@yahoo.com> <jherm...@yahoo.com>
> *Objet :* Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
>
>
>
> I always use the current geographic location and name today in each entry
> and in the notes, remark that the geographic name and country was different
> then than it is today. That way when a grandchild (or anyone) wants to
> find the place on a map is able to do so. Prussia is very hard to find, if
> you did not know where to look. Same thing with names of cities whose name
> has changed. Stalingrad, Linengrad don't make sense for someone born after
> the Cold War. Peking vs. Bejing. Same thing.
>
>
>
> Hoosierly yours,
>
>
>
> James G. Hermsen
>
> 8108 Laura Lynne Lane
>
> Indianapolis, IN 46217
>
>
>
> 317-679-1466 cell
>
> 317-881-4600 land line
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, August 01, 2019 08:43:54 AM EDT, mvmcgrs---
> via LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> wrote:
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>
> I hope you are not inserting the the added information if it is not in the
> document. The jurisdictions change over time. In the US what was a county
> in 1850 may be another county in 1860 and still another county by 1870. The
> house did not move but the boundaries did.
>
>
>
> Marie
>
> Marie Varrelman Melchiori, Certified Genealogist Emeritus
> ______________________________ ______________________________ __
> CG or Certified Genealogist is a service mark of the Board for
> Certification of Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified
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>
> In a message dated 8/1/2019 6:24:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> wrlinh...@gmail.com writes:
>
>
>
> I do agree.
>
>
>
> My standard is: [1. local jurisdiction/repository i.e.township, village,
> city, etc], 2.County, 3.State, 4.Country
>
> and apply to other countries similarly by always using three commas for
> all locations [usually each has a repository of genealogical data] . The
> entry might between comma's might be null if I don't have the information.
> For example born in USA might be ", , , USA". I know I have some research
> to do but I only record what I have from that source.
>
>
>
> For folder hierarchy and some naming situations I reverse the order but
> always hold to 4 elements for location. I don't believe I have ever had an
> exception. I am sure I will learn about one here. So far this works for
> me.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:20 AM Roberta Schwalm <robertaschw...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I do the same thing, Shirley. Most of my ancestors are from Scotland,
> Ireland, England, Germany and a spattering of French. The only difference
> is I use "province" instead of State.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 9:05 PM Shirley Crampton <scshenders...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I use Village, County, State, Country. Hopefully there is no more than 1
> village of the same name in the County. If the place is rural then I put
> the name of the township in the first position.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 5:47 PM Connie Laubach <bluecorab...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Trying to decide how to input the location names – I have townships that
> are made up of villages and boroughs. How are others handling it?
>
> I have thought of the following:
>
> Village, township, county, state, United States
>
> or
>
> township-village, country, state, United States (I like this as all
> villages within the township would be listed together)
>
>
>
> Thank you, Connie.
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