FWIW... I only create 1 census entry (for the Head of Household) and then share that event with the family members included in that census record, using the role for 'Spouse', 'Son', 'Daughter', etc. Usually create a separate event for occupation extracted form census entry.
A -----Original Message----- From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> On Behalf Of Cathy Pinner Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 8:24 PM To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding a narrative event I guess we all develop our own style for adding census data and ways to make sure the information isn't duplicated in reports. I mainly work with English censuses. I transcribe the census and put that in the Census Event notes for the head of household and for my person of interest if they're not related to the head of household. I also put the transcription into the Source Details text so for other household members it is readily available by clicking up the source. I use the Description field for the name of the head of household and the relationship to this particular person. For Head of household I leave it blank. If someone isn't at home and I can't find them in the census, I leave the Place field blank and use the Description to say they weren't home ... Obviously I've edited the Event Sentences so they make sense given the way I use the fields. I occasionally use a Sentence Override if my standard sentence doesn't fit the situation - eg for people in institutions whether military, hospital, workhouse, ... I then only add notes to other household members if there is something unexpected about their name or age or place of birth. So in a report the full transcript will only be there once. Note the census source for the household doesn't need to be changed for each person. So it can be added to all relevant fields for all household members from the Source Clipboard with a click or two. Cathy > June <mailto:mai_l...@aapt.net.au> > Friday, 23 August 2019 8:05 AM > Jenny I was interested in the way you enter census data. I have been > entering the whole data into each person file under the appropriate > census and so of course there is a lot of duplication. > > I'm looking for a way to make a report more readable as at the moment > my census events in the report run one after the other eg 1871, 1881, > 1891, with each being the description field then a list of everyone in > the house including name, age, place born, occupation. Of course > showing this once is ok but if there is a wife, husband and 6 children > all that data appears 8 times. > > In the way you enter it in the notes field would you then enter all > that information again under Jane Doe and each of their children? > > Of course I can go through at the end and edit out duplication but I'm > wondering if your way makes it more interesting to read. > > Thanks - June > > -----Original Message----- > From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> On > Behalf Of James & Judith Novinger via LegacyUserGroup > Sent: Friday, 23 August 2019 7:19 AM > To: 'Legacy User Group' <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> > Cc: James & Judith Novinger <ltng...@ptd.net> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding a narrative event > > Jenny, > Thanks for the help. I'll have to play with your method a little to > see if it comes closer to what I had in mind than my original method. > JIM > > -----Original Message----- > From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> On > Behalf Of Jenny M Benson > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 6:58 PM > To: James & Judith Novinger via LegacyUserGroup > <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding a narrative event > > I use the Description field to include all the information about each > person. Mostly I am working with UK Censuses, so a Desc field might > read "Joe Bloggs; head of household; married; aged 42; born in > Anytown, Someshire; General Labourer (employed)". For a woman in the > 1911 Census, the Desc field might read "Fanny Adams; wife; currently > married for 12 years with 3 living children & 1 deceased; aged 33; > born in Anytown, Someshire." > > In both cases I then use the Notes field to list all the people in the > household, eg "The household comprised Joe Bloggs 123, his wife Jane > Doe 56, their son Fred Bloggs 961, visitor Tom Brown, a Domestic > Servant and 2 Boarders." The numbers are the RINs which I always > include because it makes it very easy to distinguish the right person > among several with the same name and people who have any entry in my > tree have their names in bold. > > This is not a perfect system because it means a lot of duplicated > information if I build a Report which includes Event Notes, but I > would edit out the duplication if sending someone such a report. It's > very rare that I have to! > > > James & Judith Novinger via LegacyUserGroup > <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> > Friday, 23 August 2019 5:18 AM > Jenny, > Thanks for the help. I'll have to play with your method a little to > see if it comes closer to what I had in mind than my original method. > JIM > > -----Original Message----- > From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> On > Behalf Of Jenny M Benson > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 6:58 PM > To: James & Judith Novinger via LegacyUserGroup > <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding a narrative event > > I use the Description field to include all the information about each > person. Mostly I am working with UK Censuses, so a Desc field might > read "Joe Bloggs; head of household; married; aged 42; born in > Anytown, Someshire; General Labourer (employed)". For a woman in the > 1911 Census, the Desc field might read "Fanny Adams; wife; currently > married for 12 years with 3 living children & 1 deceased; aged 33; > born in Anytown, Someshire." > > In both cases I then use the Notes field to list all the people in the > household, eg "The household comprised Joe Bloggs 123, his wife Jane > Doe 56, their son Fred Bloggs 961, visitor Tom Brown, a Domestic > Servant and 2 Boarders." The numbers are the RINs which I always > include because it makes it very easy to distinguish the right person > among several with the same name and people who have any entry in my > tree have their names in bold. > > This is not a perfect system because it means a lot of duplicated > information if I build a Report which includes Event Notes, but I > would edit out the duplication if sending someone such a report. It's > very rare that I have to! > > -- > Jenny M Benson > http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/ > > Jenny M Benson <mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk> Thursday, 22 August 2019 > 6:58 AM > > > I use the Description field to include all the information about each > person. Mostly I am working with UK Censuses, so a Desc field might > read "Joe Bloggs; head of household; married; aged 42; born in > Anytown, Someshire; General Labourer (employed)". For a woman in the > 1911 Census, the Desc field might read "Fanny Adams; wife; currently > married for 12 years with 3 living children & 1 deceased; aged 33; > born in Anytown, Someshire." > > In both cases I then use the Notes field to list all the people in the > household, eg "The household comprised Joe Bloggs 123, his wife Jane > Doe 56, their son Fred Bloggs 961, visitor Tom Brown, a Domestic > Servant and 2 Boarders." The numbers are the RINs which I always > include because it makes it very easy to distinguish the right person > among several with the same name and people who have any entry in my > tree have their names in bold. > > This is not a perfect system because it means a lot of duplicated > information if I build a Report which includes Event Notes, but I > would edit out the duplication if sending someone such a report. It's > very rare that I have to! > > James & Judith Novinger via LegacyUserGroup > <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> > Thursday, 22 August 2019 2:45 AM > Jenny, > Thanks, that "Add Event Notes" button did the trick. Pesky little > devil to find! > > You said that your method is not the same as mine. How do you include > such narrative information? > JIM > > -----Original Message----- > From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> On > Behalf Of Jenny M Benson > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 11:01 AM > To: James & Judith Novinger via LegacyUserGroup > <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding a narrative event > > On 21/08/2019 15:35, James & Judith Novinger via LegacyUserGroup wrote: >> I have been recording the basic US Census data using the "Notes" >> section > within the "Census" event in Legacy 9.0 and get the usual formatted > sentence, "He appeared in the ... ", in my reports. Additionally, I > write a narrative based upon observations taken from this census data. Some > of > these narratives are several paragraphs long. I created a "Census > Narrative" event for this purpose that lists the census date and a > formatted sentence that I created. The event definition for "if only date > filled" is: > "The following narrative interpretation may be written from data > recorded on the [Date] Census sheet. [CR], [Notes]. I insert written > narrative in the "Notes" section of the event. Unfortunately, I > cannot get the actual narrative that is inserted into the "Notes" > section of the event to appear in reports. All I get is the sentence > "The following narrative interpretation may be written from data > recorded on the [Correct date] Census sheet." >> What am I doing wrong? Is there a better method for adding my census >> date > narratives to an individual? > > Your method is not the same as mine, but if it suits your purposes I > see nothing wrong with it. > > As regards the Notes, have you ticked the "Add Event Notes" option for > Reports? From the Report Options screen select the Include tab then > click the Event Options button and look under Other Options. > > -- > Jenny M Benson > http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/ > -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
