And I am always sputtering to myself about the small check boxes on some web sites or program screens that I have trouble clicking directly on, wishing they would recognize a "Nearby" click, or a click on the "label" or box description area <G>.
Legacy can solve the problem by not having the label or description field "clickable", or by by making the whole clickable field, including the "label" or description the same color and "boxed"? Jay ================== From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ron Klotz Zellhoefer Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 17:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] The one thing that does drive me nuts about Legacy correction, Bob - no I am most certainly not willing to accept a box being checked from outside the box. The only thing, which I think most would be aware of, would be the understanding that telative text located adjacent to a checkbox will normally trigger a check in the box. If it goes beyond that, I would think that is a programming glitch within Legacy. Much as I love to blame Micro$oft, I am quite sure that this little issue would not an OS error. Thing is, I don't know that this has ever happened to me, but next time into Legacy I will certainly check for "private" individuals, as I have none! Ron ================ From: "Bob Janetzko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, 12 December 2004 16:37 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] The one thing that does drive me nuts about Legacy Paula (and Ron and Randy), That's exactly the point I was trying to make! Clicking INSIDE the check box is what should turn on the setting, not clicking anywhere in the general area. It is this clicking in "blank" screen areas that should require user acknowledgement that the area really wasn't blank after all. I realize that this is at least mostly a Microsoft issue, and they are one of the least logical and usability-oriented developers around. But there has got to be a better way to handle these fields. How many forms have we all filled out where there are boxes to check or circles to fill? The instructions always clearly state that you MUST make your choice WITHIN the box or circle, otherwise you did NOT make a choice. In Ohio and Florida these are known as "spoiled ballots". ;-) On my monitor, the check boxes for "Private" and "This individual never married" are 1/8" in size. Yet clicking 4 3/4" to the right of the "Private" box or 9 3/4" to the right of the "This individual never married" box results in a check mark in the box!!! I will definitely NOT accept responsibility for checked boxes that get turned on SO FAR AWAY from the actual box, even though Ron and Randy seem willing to do so. The only reason that I suggested a confirmation for these remotely-triggered fields is that it is so seldom that they are used intentionally. Much like confirmation of deletes, since it is done so seldom, the confirmation is not a nuisance. I'd bet that there are far more of those check boxes turned on by accident than intentionally. Bob ================= From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paula Ryburn Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 17:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] The one thing that does drive me nuts about Legacy I think just changing the screen to only recognize a click INSIDE THE CHECK BOX as setting it to Private (or Never Married) would be sufficient to remove any inadvertent changes. If you see a check in the box, then you did check the box. ;) --Paula ============== From: "Dave Keeney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] The one thing that does drive me nuts about Legacy Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 22:37:57 -0800 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not so sure it's a Microsoft problem. I've never seen any other Windows based program that behaves like this for radio buttons or check boxes. =================== From: "Rob Weiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] The one thing that does drive me nuts about Legacy Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:45:11 +1100 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah - it's a pain to avoid as the checkbox control includes the label. The way around it is to use an unlabelled checkbox control (so it's just the size of the box) and a label that's a separate control. That way you have to click the box itself to toggle the checkbox, and clicking the label does nothing. Rob ============= From: "Rob Weiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] The one thing that does drive me nuts about Legacy Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 21:02:15 +1100 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bob, It's actually not really a Microsoft issue. The checkbox control used on the Visual Basic forms that Legacy uses, toggles the checkbox wherever you click on the control. This is to cater for non-precise mouse drivers! By default, the control includes the box and a label field, which usually is full of a label. However, you don't have to fill up the label field, so you may not see it all. If you want, you can leave off the label, make the control small and label it separately. It's a form design decision, and easily fixed. After all the fuss on the list, I suspect we'll see something happen in the next build or so ;) Cheers, Rob Legacy User Group Etiquette guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup%40mail.millenniacorp.com/ To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp
