On Wednesday 10 April 2019, althio wrote: > > You may have skipped parts of my message, so excuse me if I repeat a > few lines. You quoted only two sentences and I slightly wonder if you > genuinely read the whole.
I am sorry if i left the impression that i was specifically criticizing your ideas - i was more referring to the general course of the discussion towards a rather mechanical exegesis of the ODbL based on a simplistic view of how algorithms work as a mechanical process converting well defined input data into well defined output data. > [...] > I don't think my original message can be read as "sweepingly declare > any output of algorithms as having no copyright connection". I did not mean to imply that - but since your line of reasoning only covers this case it is to be expected that people assume this is the only relevant case. > [...] > > My final two cents: > Take the Geocoding guideline, replace "Geocoding" by "Machine > Learning" and this is, in my humble opinion, an acceptable first > draft for discussion. But as far as i understand you, you up-front want to declare the "database" behind the Machine Learning, i.e. the adaptive part of the algorithms that gets modified through training, to be a produced work and therefore not subject to share-alike. If not i don't see the practical usefulness in applying the geocoding guideline to this in analogy because while for geocoding the individual result is a frequent practical use case Machine Learning and similar algorithms are mostly used to produce bulk results which are usually substantial in terms of database law. As far as the Horizontal Layers guideline and the concept of produced works in general is concerned - the only consistent view of these concepts is IMO to consider them to be limited exclusively to cases when you are talking about things produced for and used only for direct human consumption. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ _______________________________________________ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
