On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 9:53 PM, bpursley <[email protected]> wrote:

> undocumented!  Past suggestions for a "Leo Cookbook" with fully
> executable examples have consistently been shot down.

Have they? I believe the problem is, as always, the time it takes to
do such a thing.

Leo's source code (particularly the plugins/ directory) could be the
cookbook for now.

> I am grateful that Leo has been shared with the coding world.  I
> "feel" that Leo ought to be at the core of any tool set for developing
> in python.  But then, several years ago I "felt" that both Perl and

You could feel more relaxed about future of Leo if you didn't think of
it as a Python programming tool. Use it as an outliner, to arrange
your thoughts and possibly emit some .py / .txt / whatever files every
now and then when the need comes. Or make a script to read some stuff
from your files, create a leo outline, read / modify that outline and
use it to collect, organize and emit some interesting output. Create
230 config files if that rocks your boat :-).

Leo is betting on (at least) 2 winning technologies - python and PyQt,
neither of which is going away, so the source code has clear evolution
path. Leo is also python3 compliant now, which is a rarity among large
python projects. I see that biggest hurdles of Leo have actually been
solved already (bad UI, slowness), and it's only getting better.

Open source projects can stall for a period when people have other
things on their plate for a while (e.g. my development has been
curtailed because of busy job & small boy (1-year birthday this
week!)). OTOH, in the meantime I have been using Leo *more*, not less,
as I have more complex information management needs at work. It all
evens out after a period.

If you think of projects like perl and mysql, they can "die" because
they are trounced by their competition. If Leo was a python ide, it
could be "beaten" by, say, wing ide or komodo (to the extent that it
would make no sense to put more effort on Leo development, because the
battle would be hopeless). But Leo isn't a python ide; there is no
other program like Leo. I'm not sure there ever was one either - leo
is rare in that it's not a re-creation of something that existed
previously, but charting previously uncharted waters. That's why it
hits some dead ends along the way, but that's part of the journey :-).

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