On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Ville M. Vainio <[email protected]> wrote:
> There is another thread on focusing on marketing instead of feature
> development. I agree on this (esp. for features like vim-bindings, which
> would likely be misplacement of limited development time, as vim users will
> always be using vim and the result would be bad anyway).

Agreed. The way to make vim users happy is with solid
<alt-x> open-file-in-vim
for the @xxxx externals.
Implementing a subset, however large, of vim capabilities, causes frustration.

>
> There are some ideas to increase "instant appeal", which plays directly to
> marketing (first step is to get people try leo, the second step is to make
> them spend more than 15 minutes in it).
>
> 1. Make a dark theme the default, and ensure it looks good on Windows, OSX
> and Linux. Make font sizes etc like those in atom, sublime text, Visual
> Studio Code and Firefox Developer edition (just examples to reflect what I
> consider "modern" look and feel).
>
> Screenshots:
>
> http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/atom-editor-windows.jpg
>
> http://www.johnpapa.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/vsc.png
>
> http://www.cmstricks.com/assets/images/tutorials/soho-part1/template-tutorial%20(20).jpg
>
> (we could even adjust tab look and feel to match this look!)
>
> 2. .ini or .json based configuration (instead of .leo format), again like in
> Sublime Text or VSCode. Current system requires too much Leo buy-in already

agreed. Leo files may well be 'better' for the purpose, but we're talking broad
appeal, and familiar beats good, standard beats proprietary.
YAML is very attractive for this purpose.

>
> 3. See if we could make tabs for node editors (richt click on node -> open
> as tab). This is in line with how people use e.g. browsers these days. Like
> "stickynote" but for tabs, that is

agreed. And make them persist across sessions, the lack of which prevents
<alt-x> add-editor from being more attractive.

>
> 4. see if we could replace minibuffer with ctrl+shift+p like thing from
> sublime/atom/vscode. Much more "impressive" and modern.
>
> 5. likewise, ctrl+p for "quick finding" nodes based on fuzzy matching on
> headlines (like subliwe fuzzy matches file names on ctrl+p)
>
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