Hi,

On 15/09/15 01:21, Edward K. Ream wrote:

Furthermore, the post overstates the problem. For example, IPython is wildly successful in the scientific world. IPython users are scientists, not "devs", and yet this doesn't cause great problems.


I used IPython for academic writing and teaching. I think that interactivity and the web notebook metaphor are the winning arguments of IPython. But installing can be hard (is just that you made it only once), packaging is difficult as Fernando Perez, its author had recognized and scientist are the kind of powerful user I referred in this thread, not the average one.

In short, the post is misleading.  Finally, a statement such as:

"it is /honestly easier to learn an entirely new programming language and toolchain, and rewrite an entire application/ than to figure out how to build a self-contained executable in Python right now."


is, um, unconvincing. Rewriting an app in another language is unlikely ever to be a viable approach. The OP pleads that "he doesn't have time" to solve the distro problem. But he has time to rewrite an app in another language? My bullshit alarm just went off.


Yep, but if you want *some* features of IPython (interactivity, autocompletion, embedded graphics) and Leo (outlining), for example, there is a long way to walk in their integration from the perspective of "end user" experience and in that case starting something new with just that features can be easier that trying to make the integration of pre-existing python apps be experienced smoothly by users. Moldability of python tools can be hard, even with IPython.

Cheers,

Offray


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