On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On 15/09/15 01:21, Edward K. Ream wrote:
>
>
> Furthermore, the post overstates the problem.  For example, IPython is
> wildly successful in the scientific world.  IPython users are scientists,
> not "devs", and yet this doesn't cause great problems.
>
>
> I used IPython for academic writing and teaching. I think that
> interactivity and the web notebook metaphor are the winning arguments of
> IPython. But installing can be hard (is just that you made it only once),
> packaging is difficult as Fernando Perez, its author had recognized and
> scientist are the kind of powerful user I referred in this thread, not the
> average one.
>
> In short, the post is misleading.  Finally, a statement such as:
>
> "it is *honestly easier to learn an entirely new programming language and
> toolchain, and rewrite an entire application* than to figure out how to
> build a self-contained executable in Python right now."
>
>
> is, um, unconvincing.
>
> Yep, but if you want *some* features of IPython (interactivity,
> autocompletion, embedded graphics) and Leo (outlining), for example, there
> is a long way to walk in their integration from the perspective of "end
> user" experience and in that case starting something new with just that
> features can be easier that trying to make the integration of pre-existing
> python apps be experienced smoothly by users. Moldability of python tools
> can be hard, even with IPython.
>

​We would all like to mix and match the favorite features from two
different apps.  Even with open software that can be a practically
impossible task.  There are various workarounds, including support for
importing and importing data from other apps.  One of the things on Leo's
to-do list is to be able to import and export .ipynb files.

I'll say more about IPython in another thread.

Edward

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