On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 10:30:26 PM UTC-5, andyjim wrote:
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> Thomas, tell me if this is an inappropriate suggestion, but I wonder if 
> this thread has pretty much played out its level of pertinence and interest 
> to the Leo community, since it's not directly about Leo and may be on a 
> subject of limited interest here.  Given your own zettelkasten-like program 
> and your interest in knowledge and semantic processing, and your direct 
> questions to me about my ideas (I'm working on it), would it be appropriate 
> for us to continue the discussion by email?  That would be much easier for 
> me, but if not appropriate I'll continue here, though this thread waxes 
> long now and I feel I don't function well in a forum venue.  
>

I've been wondering the same thing.  Trouble is, if we use email, it's just 
us, and we miss out on other people's  thinking.  We could set up a whole 
new Google group, but I'd like to keep the discussion in the Leo context if 
we can do so - would you agree?  And it's clear that there is some degree 
of interest, as we see from @Xavier's post.

What I'm thinking is to open a new thread in the Leo group - and to keep 
opening new threads when and as one gets too long to work with.  Just now, 
we're wrestling with what we really want to accomplish and how it ought to 
work, and it would make sense to open a new thread on requirements and 
concept of operation (this could include your narratives).  How's this 
sound to everyone? 

I've gone beyond the requirements I posted a few days ago, and tried to 
come up with a note format that

   1. Can be typed and read easily;
   2. Can be processed by software easily;
   3. Could be used in a paper Zettelkasten if one really had to do that;
   4. The system could export note files in this format without too much 
   difficulty;
   5. Contains most of the essential information, so that the software 
   could reconstruct the entire zettelkasten just from these notes if need be 
   (possibly with a small amount of information loss);

I think I've gotten most of this.  The main things I haven't worked out so 
far are links to other notes that might be embodied right in the text of 
the note (if we really want these). and similarly how links to other 
non-text media would be captured in the zettel.  There is no end of ways 
these things could be done, and my interest is in coming up with something 
that is especially easy to type and read.

Why my emphasis on typing the zettels?  Because the alternative is to use 
some software system that tries to "help" you.  Now we'll certainly want 
something like that as an option, but having to use a number of select or 
drop-down lists or whatnot all the time really interferes with one's flow.  
Straight typing is better where possible.

In my concept of operations, one would be able to type into a new zettel - 
either in a Leo node or even in a separate file - and then the system would 
hook it up based on the info you typed.  Later, the system would help you 
change, add to, or update the references;  you could do that when you 
weren't so involved with the thoughts you were typing.

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