On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 5:42 AM john lunzer <[email protected]> wrote:

> Your plan of careful consideration here is warranted, lest these become
> distractions. As my area of expertise is emacs these days and I regularly
> use org mode I would argue heavily against Leo's interaction with emacs,
> though it doesn't' seem that you need much convincing. The emacs culture is
> steadfast and the org-mode sub-culture more so. It is not worth one's time
> to bring Leo to emacs/org as that culture is happy with what they have. It
> is *perhaps* worth one's time to bring some of org to Leo, but this can
> be done via "feature borrowing" as opposed bridging.
>

Thanks for your perspective.

>
> With regards to Leo and emacs the focus, if any, should be on an org-mode
> importer and exporter. I believe these already exist but in what state I
> can't say, if there are improvements that can be done and it is interesting
> to you then go ahead, I believe any work towards these would be beneficial
> to Leo's universal utility. That said I don't think this work is a high
> priority.
>

At present nobody is complaining.

You also make a good point about Flexx's short comings. I was hoping that
> Flexx would continue to be developed and it was looking like it would but
> Almar Klein has all but abandoned the project in favor of his own QT based
> editor. It's too bad, for a while it almost felt like Flexx was the future
> of Python UIs.
>

I was referring to the underlying key-related problems of browsers. Afaik,
flexx is not to blame.

> You're doing great and Leo is doing great without the constant barrage of
> "I wish Leo did this" requests. Leo's legacy will be more affected by your
> day to day collapsing of complexity than anything else. New features are
> great but streamlining Leo's current capabilities offers more value.
>

Collapsing complexity is an ongoing project. So is converting
non-outline-related @test nodes in unitTest.leo to "proper" test cases in
individual files.

That said, I rely on feature requests and bug reports to move Leo forward.
Naturally, I give priority to my own desires, but Leo is close to perfect
for me.

Edward

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