On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 9:07:09 AM UTC-5, Thomas Passin wrote: > > > We've got that by means of the Leo outline structure. The proximity and > nesting of the Leo nodes fills exactly the same function. >
Somehow I don't see it as quite the same thing. The outline structure is hierarchical while the numbered thread structure, while it does represent ordered sequence, does not necessarily imply hierarchy (although it can). But the other aspect that I see as different (and a necessary difference) is that outline headings are categories or topics, while thought sequences are another sort of thing. A thought may be an observation, a viewpoint, an opinion, a deduction, a question. I might think of it as more of a process than a topic, although it will always have a topic. We will have entire sequences of thoughts on one topic, and topic-wise, we do indeed need the outline structure, which I consider a top-down function. But the sequences of thoughts, and their branches and connections do not, to me, closely resemble a hierarchically arranged set of topics. They can indeed be, and should be, classed within such a structure, but it appears to me that allowing them only a topic-based structure might break the dynamic of the sequenced thread of thought. This forum thread is an example of a sequenced thread of thought that would be difficult, I think, to represent as a hierarchical outline of headings. Sub-topics topics could indeed be identified, and we could build an outline structure of those sub-topics (in fact it would likely be helpful to do so), yet that structure would not, I think, reflect or adequately (though it could to a degree) illuminate the sequential thought processes that develops through this thread. A thought thread or 'train of thought' is a sequential, ordered process, not just an organization of topics. Just my viewpoint for what it's worth. > > I've actually been making new organizing nodes contain the IDs, because I > know from experience with my bookmarks manager that it can be useful to > jump to headings instead of only to specific items. > So an organizing node is itself a zettel, I gather. Hmm, so a note zettel could have a backlink to one or more organizing zettels. And organizing zettels form yet another interlaced system and add a powerful search capability. I haven't even begun to think about organizing nodes. I am very interested in your concepts and approaches. I completely agree on the utility, the necessity of headings, indexes, various top-down organizational structures/functions, even while seeing, I believe, shortcomings with them as well. And by the way, if possible, I am very interested in your bookmarks manager. Need a zk for bookmarks/URLs, a sort of adjunct to the notes/thoughts zk. And Thomas, I can hardly express how very much I appreciate your work on this. I expect I come across sometimes as unappreciative. I'd like to correct that impression if I can. I think that you are exactly the right person to do this. Wish I could help in more substantive ways, not just throwing silly ideas out there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/leo-editor/7a9f9428-3068-48a6-9ae3-379f7e963b46%40googlegroups.com.
