I'm with you here. Between VR3 and Freewin, I've tried floating windows, new frames, and rendering into a tab in the log frame. Freewin has a switchable display (edit <-> render) and I find that convenient and easy to work with, even without a way to set the default to *render*. Having the body pane display style be switchable would work very well for me as a UI, should not be hard to implement, and would not preclude any of those other display modes.
On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 1:52:49 PM UTC-4 gates...@gmail.com wrote: > Why would a floating window solve any problems here? How are you > envisioning that a floating VR3 window, *which can already be done* *today > without any additional coding*, would help the situation? > > As a counterpoint, I only have a single display available to me. I > generally do my work (in Leo) on a single desktop monitor, or a tiny laptop > screen. In *both cases* I would much prefer a switchable pane, rather > than a floating window. The current solution of VR eating up a third of > the screen by default, or of faffing about with a floating window (even > more irksome on a laptop with a touchpad), is such a poor UX that I avoid > it. Enough so that I've effectively stopped using Leo for anything that > needs to be rendered. > > Adding a first-class 'floating window' feature to VR/3 wouldn't fix any > issues. It would strictly exacerbate the issue. But a context-aware > switchable tab, which is eminently doable, would solve *every single one* > of my personal problems. And I know it's a workable solution *because > I've done it*. > > Leo is, to me, an editor, an IDE, and a platform. But it is increasingly > *not* an authoring tool for me, because of the current implementation of > VR. And that's frustrating, because authoring any sort of complex > documentation *should be* where Leo shines, given the first-class > outlining and clones. > > Just my $0.02. I wish we wouldn't just discard things out of hand because > of perceived 'dubiousness'. Experimentation is fruitful, and painless, > given git branching. > > Jake > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 1:31 PM Edward K. Ream <edre...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 11:49 AM Thomas Passin <tbp1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Trilium undervalues the power of text: >> >> > I think that Edward does not appreciate how often users want to use Leo >> as a Notebook... >> >> I agree. Leonistas *should *be able to use lots of graphics :-) That's >> why improving the VR plugins and (maybe) the rst3 plugin seems like a good >> idea. >> >> > Trillium...shows you a rendered view of its nodes and makes it harder >> to edit and work with the content. >> >> > Leo makes it easy to edit and work with text, but harder to insert and >> look at rendered graphics, etc. >> >> That's a reasonable summary. A floating VR pane would be a step forward. >> >> > VR3 can display [jupyter] files using an @jupyter node type. Any text >> display would only show the raw html... >> >> Yes, sometimes the rendered view is preferable. But that's no reason to >> complicate Leo's interface. >> >> *Summary* >> >> The Easter Egg is the only way to expand the VR pane. An optional >> floating VR window would solve that problem. >> >> Edward >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "leo-editor" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to leo-editor+...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/leo-editor/CAMF8tS1WZmuDxfRg8vU-oWsXKRZOoKSqn2ZP0cGX0Duw_5ys4A%40mail.gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/leo-editor/CAMF8tS1WZmuDxfRg8vU-oWsXKRZOoKSqn2ZP0cGX0Duw_5ys4A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/leo-editor/47847ae3-a0eb-45ef-993b-957beece1c2cn%40googlegroups.com.
