Hello Edward & Thomas,
Viktor Ransmayr schrieb am Montag, 14. Oktober 2024 um 16:37:56 UTC+2:
tbp1...@gmail.com schrieb am Montag, 14. Oktober 2024 um 14:59:06 UTC+2:
On Monday, October 14, 2024 at 8:43:41 AM UTC-4 Edward K. Ream wrote:
On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 7:02 AM Viktor Ransmayr <viktor....@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Something is awkward with the current state of the new layout system ( at
least in my Fedora Linux VM ;-)
...
To add a bit more context from my side:
* The "@string initial-split-orientation = horizontal" is not a new - but -
a quite old configuration setting.
* --> I believe at least 4 to 5 years old. - In my Fedora VM I have it as a
'left-over' defined in the "myLeoSettings" outline, while in my Debian VM
it is taken (w/o any explicit action on my side) from the "leoSettings"
outline
I also believe that we should not forget the ~ layout & theming ~
experience offered to first-time Leo users in their 'workbook' outline.
This is something, that I plan to look at next (w/o waiting for any changes
to the current layout system implementation) ...
Here are the notes from my testing of the current layout system state in a
~ fresh ~ installation for a new Leo user:
* -> Leo is starting in '<which>' (" - | ") layout w/o a VR pane ...
* ==> Body pane of top-level 'Workbook' outline node is initially empty.
* ==> According to 'Running Leo' it should contain Leo’s cheat sheet and an
example from the rst3 tutorial [1].
* Try 'layout-swap-log-panel' - OK? -> Change to (" | | ") layout w/o a VR
pane ...
* Try 'layout-swap-log-panel' again - OK -> Change back to (" - | ") layout
w/o a VR pane ...
* Try 'layout-legacy' - OK? -> Change to 'legacy' (" + ") layout with VR
pane using VR as renderer ...
* ==> 'Legacy' layout is what's still shown in the screenshot for Leo's
main window on the home page.
* Try 'layout-restore-default' - Confusing / OK? -> No layout change, i.e.
still the 'classical' (" + ") layout with VR pane ...
* Try 'layout-big-tree' - OK -> Change to 'big tree' (" ? ") layout with VR
pane ...
* Use 'layout-restore-default' to change back to 'legacy' (" + ") layout
with VR pane ...
* Try 'layout-render-focused' - OK? -> Change to 'legacy' (" = | ") layout
with VR pane ...
* Use 'layout-restore-default' to change back to 'legacy' (" + ") layout
with VR pane ...
* Try 'layout-horizontal-thirds' - OK? -> Change to 'horizontal thirds' ("
? ") layout with VR pane ...
* Use 'layout-restore-default' to change back to 'legacy' (" + ") layout
with VR pane ...
* Try 'layout-vertical-thirds' - OK? -> Change to 'vertical thirds #1' (" -
| | ") layout with VR pane ...
* Use 'layout-restore-default' to change back to 'legacy' (" + ") layout
with VR pane ...
* Try 'layout-vertical-thirds2' - OK? -> Change to 'vertical thirds #2' ("
| - | ") layout with VR pane ...
* Use 'layout-restore-default' to change back to 'legacy' (" + ") layout
with VR pane ...
* Try 'layout-quadrant' - Confusing / OK? -> No layout change, i.e. still
the 'classical' (" + ") layout with VR pane ...
As you (Thomas) already stated in your initial reply to the problem found
during my earlier tests:
- They do not happen here, because for a fresh installation only the
'viewrendered.py' plugin is enabled.
However these new test reveals the following about the layout commands:
- layout-legacy == layout-quadrant == layout-restore-default
- These commands are doing / providing the same layout ! - This is
confusing ( at least for me ;-)
I do believe, that the number of layout commands in Leo's core should be
reduced to a bare minimum - and - some others (e.g. like 'big tree' &
'vertical thirds #2) should at the most be documented
The selection of the minimal commands could be guided by the fact that most
(all?) monitors have a rectangular and not a square form.
With kind regards,
Viktor
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[1] https://leo-editor.github.io/leo-editor/running.html#leo-s-workbook-file
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