On 31-Jan-01 at 17:26, Michel Bardiaux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Does anyone know about any done or ongoing translation of Scott W.
> Sadler's "Motif MDI" C++ classes into C and/or a proper Motif XmManager
> subclass?
> 
> And would it be worth doing? I can see several cons:
> 
> (1) In the Open Source world many people hate window-in-window MDI, for
> ergonomy reasons or because they hate anything smelling of Windows...
> the 2 reasons are not incompatible!

Personally, I would like to see this type of interface banished from the
planet. What we really need is something that implements a "normal" windowed
environment out of any app that tries to confine me to dealing with only their
application. And if this is the only way you can figure out to iconify multiple
windows when a main window gets iconified, read the man pages!!! Microsoft has
some nice features in their interfaces, THIS IS NOT ONE OF THEM.

Let the flames begin, if you must. But I will ignore them, much the same as I
ignore the comments that emacs is better than vi (NOT).

Recently I have been forced into some development that has to be done on a
Microsoft platform, I need to produce a win32 dll. This involves multiple tools
that each has its own MDI, each _requires_ it's own editor, and so on. It's a
****** nightmare!!!!! And I consider myself somewhere above the "rookie" stage
when it comes to programming, probably not an "expert" but definitly beyond
rookie. When I need to deal with one window from "this" MDI, and one window
from "that" MDI, you end up with two applications that "assume" they "own" the
entire screen.

I am however starting to understand why there are so many people getting rich
offering "Windows" help, it is so ****** up that you need an expert to explain
the screwed up reasoning behind doing the simplest of tasks.....

Damn, this is turning into a rant.....I haven't had a good one in a while
though.....sorry.....

Bottom line, don't expect any help from me to implement an MDI interface :)


> 
> (2) These classes impose the MWM look-and-feel regardless of the actual
> window manager - and Linux has KDE, Gnome, Enligtenment, AfterStep, "A
> maze of twisty little WMs, all different".
> 
> The pro, of course, is that there does not seem to be anything else...
> 
> Greetings.
> -- 
> Michel Bardiaux
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> 
> 

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